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Obama's OOPS

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by wnes, Jan 25, 2008.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    As has been pointed out, you aren't doing a good job of it. Of all the charges being leveled at him, only one is close to be substantial, or true.
     
  2. wnes

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    Obama is a shrewd and calculating politician, but his phoniness and fraud can easily be discerned if you are willing to forsaken blind partisan zeal. Your laundry list in his defense is duly noted. I'll offer my point-by-point rebuttal later.
     
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    Here are the facts.
    1. He was classified as a Muslim -- school and father
    2. He then became an atheist, heck, he flaunted it from what I can tell. His 'conversion' to Christianity was very convenient... from a political standpoint. Genuine? Who's to say...
    3. His church is intensely focused on the advancement of their own race. Is that not the definition of racism?
    4. He rejected the Asians' request, turning his back on them
    5. Obama embellished his community work
    6. His father's life was a certified train wreck. What a horrible role model. Troubling
    7. Obama's neglect in voting can not simply be dismissed as an accident. It's called responsibility
    8. The Rezko deal stinks to the high heavens. On several fronts. Really I don't have to explain this to anyone who is not blindly partisan.
     
  4. mc mark

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    TJ's frustration and embarrassment of not being able to discuss his choice of candidate is growing more palpable by the day.



    *snicker*
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    your "facts" just aren't factual

    1. Went to a Muslim school, has never identified himself as a Muslim, certainly isn't one now, nor did he get sworn in on anything using the Koran as the propaganda has stated.

    2. He never flaunted and only has said he questioned organized religion, and wasn't particularly religious for a period. he joined the church decades ago, and has nothing to do with his run for the Presidency.

    3. His church, like many, focused on their community, and on helping a group that is still the butt of oppression and discrimination. That sounds like a very Christian thing to do. Racism doesn't even enter into it.

    4. He offered to continue to work with him, and expressed his regret that they wouldn't reword their pledge, even though they had reworded the pledge for other candidates. The group had claimed to be neutral but was running a "stop Obama" campaign on their website.

    5. Obama did community work, and if the specifics were mixed up, it doesn't change the fact that he did the work, and it was appreciated by the people in the community and they were and are supporters of him.

    6. His father's life has no bearing on Obama, and was only part of the story because someone claimed Obama shouldn't have been so positive when speaking of his own father. Mind you that was all a guess by an outsider who had no direct knowledge of the family workings, which Obama obviously did.

    7. It's called normal and only occurs .1% of the time, which sounds like a good record.

    8. The only possible thing to look into and question, even though Obama has been accused of no wrong doing.
     
  6. Ubiquitin

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    wnes, why the hate for Obama? Is this a response from the Asian PAC's boycott?
     
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    Obama won't let him in his 2008 baseball OOTPS league.
     
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