I agree and as I said before I'm still planning on voting for him, heck I might even campaign for him. What irks me about this though is how for the past two years we've been told how special and different Obama is and how he is a person we can believe in. When now even some of his most ardent supporters admit his promises are nebulous and are willing to engage in the kind of spin that they've criticized others with pardon me if I feel a little snarky when we find out that Obama is willing to go back on his words, or at least parse them quite abit, as much as many other politicians.
You certainly don't have to ask for my pardon! The reason I haven't done some of what you are doing now is that I'm just exhausted from the battle during the primaries, from attempting to support both candidates. That proved to be pretty much impossible here. Now that we have a nominee, I'm just going to look forward. But don't let that stop you! Impeach Bush.
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He didn't break his promise with this decision. He didn't go back on it. Maybe it's only a technicality that he didn't, but to act like after all he's done this one little thing that isn't a broken promise even on a technicality makes him like all the other politicians is bogus. He isn't. He stepped up and cut off the special interest money to the DNC, is one example showing that he's different. The others have been mentioned before(refusing to join in the pile on of Hillary Clinton and sniper gate even when given the chance at the ABC debate etc.) I think you are disillusioned far to easily if you see all that he's done differently from other politicians and then let this one decision change that.
Well I haven't suffered all the racism and oppression against white people that you have, so with my privileged lifestyle it's easy for me to do that. Keep fighting the black power structure that's keeping you down, man. Of course it is odd that reading what the pledge he signed actually said, and seeing that he didn't technically violate that pledge isn't really turning a blind eye, so maybe all the tough oppression you've suffered comes from something other than being white.
And it was on a technicality that Bill Clinton didn't lie to a grand jury. It sounds to me like you are admitting this is a matter of spin and parsing. Something that most politicians do.
I agree it is mostly spin. But I am saying that given this it doesn't mean all of a sudden Obama is on the same level as all the other politics, and is just playing politics as usual when there are larger and clearer examples showing that doesn't. He certainly isn't perfect, and has been guilty of attacking such as the wal-mart board attack on Clinton, but unlike most other politicians these kinds of things are the exception rather than the rule with him.
After this move, and so many other similar moves, how can any of you guys trust Obama? It's not like he has a long history of experience that you can look at to give you comfort, either. He's a politician like all the rest -- nothing new here to hang your hat on. No 'culture of change'. Just more of the same. He lied. Plain and simple. Man, some of you are gullible to think that this guy is anything more than a marketing campaign... This does make me more likely to donate even more money to use against him though.
Jorge - please put your mouth where your money is and take the SamFisher electoral challenge. Or else just admit that you are too afraid that McCain will be O-bama-literated in the fall. Which is what will happen.
When all is said and done Obama is a politician who has policy positions that will start to move our country off the "wrong direction" that 84% of Americans think we are headed. Folks don't think McCain will be able to do this so we have the extremely unusual case of the GOP candidate being very behind in fund raising.
Sam, I'm considering the challenge, as I believe McCain will win once Americans learn more about Obama and his dangerous past and inexperience. Here is my dilemma -- if I leave the board for 100 days (unlikely but let's run hypo's), then the Republican presence here is decimated. If you leave the board for 100 days, then the army of wild-eyed lib lunatics march forward virtually unchanged. I might ask that several of your like-minded colleagues are included, such as Batman, glynch, rimrocker, and some of the other long time kooksters. thoughts?
The Republican presence will be just fine. It will be the wingnut, divorced from reality, fantasy warrior, screw civil liberties, elitist viewpoint that will be relegated to Tex and basso.
Once again, I point out something that someone can't dispute and they use an unfounded personal attack. I'm not so sure that you and Sam aren't the same guy? If you're not you must have a man crush on him because you are running around with his stupid words in your mouth. Look you were the one fluttering about like Peter Pan claiming how refreshing it was that Obama was bringing about a new type of politics to this election. As much as I think Pgabriel is a despicable person at least he had the guts to admit Obama backtracked on this. I think you were the guy who said he would have supported Obama if the crack and bj story were true. That says a lot about you.
