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Obama's management style

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Batman Jones, Jun 16, 2008.

  1. ROCKET RICH NYC

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    Management style doesn't matter for either candidate since they have people telling them what to say and do. :rolleyes:
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    I'm really interested in this answer. I think it would help many folks decide if TJ actually stands by his word on this forum. I think all his future posts will be judged accordingly by a good many here.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    Except when Obama writes his own speeches(such as the one on race relations) or decides what his campaign does.
     
  4. basso

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    Bats, using your line of reasoning, it would then be fair to suggest that you felt in both 2000 and 2004 that Bush would make a wonderful president. conversely, would you not agree that Gore and Kerry would have made woeful presidents? they ran excreble campaigns.
     
  5. Batman Jones

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    No, although I was impressed by aspects of his campaign. But the answer is no for two reasons: one is that Bush had a ton of executive experience in business and in each case he presided over a spectacular failure. The second is that he won largely by playing dirty. The stuff his campaign pulled on McCain was insanely unethical and they weren't a whole lot better on Gore or Kerry. I don't give points to cheaters or dirty players, especially when they've made a career of screwing things up and bailing out.
     
  6. basso

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    so you admire Bush then for staying the course in iraq rather than bailing out when things got tougher?
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Bush had the establishment behind him, obama didn't, that's the difference.
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    brilliant comparison, there's a limit to how far you can run a business into the ground, even with bush family money. unfortunately now he has government money to play with
     
  9. Apollo Creed

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    I certainly do. However, I suffer from a debilitating disease in which even the poorest of analogies make sense.
     
  10. Batman Jones

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    Word.
     
  11. basso

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    excellent, now i can start a thread titled "Batman Admires Bush!"

    ;)
     
  12. basso

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    what does this say about Obama's management style?

    [rquoter]Clinton Bundler on Obama's Doyle Pick: The Biggest '**** You' Ever
    by Jason Horowitz | June 16, 2008 | Tags: PoliticsBarack ObamaHillary ClintonPatti Solis Doyle

    A former bundler to Hillary Clinton just called in to tell me that Barack Obama's selection of Patti Solis Doyle as chief of staff to the campaign's eventual vice presidential nominee is the "biggest **** you I have ever seen in politics."

    The donor, speaking on background, said that everyone in Clinton circles knows the two have hard feelings towards one another and haven't spoken since Clinton removed Solis Doyle as campaign manager, and that Clinton loyalists view her with deep suspicion and believe that she is shopping around a book deal and acted as a background source for an extremely harsh Vanity Fair piece about Bill Clinton.

    "Either one of two things happen," said the bundler. "Hillary is selected as vice president and they fire Patti, or Hillary is not going to be the vice president."

    The bundler said that Clinton loyalists were livid over the pick.

    "You don't hire Patti Solis Doyle for her operational expertise," said the bundler. "You don't do that. This is someone who failed dramatically at her job. You only bring her on to **** someone else."[/rquoter]
     
  13. pgabriel

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    i think if this is the type of criticism you're left to, GAME SET MATCH
     
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    so clinton loyalists are experts on Obama's management style?
     
  15. Apollo Creed

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    I agree with Basso. I mean, it makes sense, if you think about it from a nonsensical perspective.
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    It says that Obama is reaching out to Hillary supporters and bringing the two camps together.
     
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    I find it interesting that Clinton has a former bundler born since December, 2000.
     
  18. mc mark

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    double word
     
  19. tested911

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    What the heck I actually agree with what TJ said? Yes he has a campaign manger, speech writers and the sorts..

    But Mccain is the SAME.. He has a campaign manger, speechwriters but if you tell me who looks more like a natural speaker its Obama. Everytime McCain get up there to speak his eyes can't get off that teleprompter for 2 seconds.. It's the most hilarious thing I have ever seen. Maybe they need to scroll the words more slowly for his aging eyes.
     

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