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Obama's Celebrity/Vanity Compared to Britney and Paris

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Jul 30, 2008.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    As a former troll myself, I would say your schtick needs work.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Your whole style is very confusing. It's like a personal grudge match for you. You seem to feel so threatened by anything others post that disagrees with your view that you need to throw out insults, and turn it into some kind of Jr. High insult/comeback game, where your Jr. High sense of honor depends on how damaging your comeback is, and to make sure that nobody else has a good "comeback" or your Jr. High sense of honor will be offended.

    The problem is I think you are the only one playing that game. Nobody else, especially Deckard, is trying to throw an in your face comeback. That's not the game the rest of us are playing.

    Sure there are times when most of us want to score arguments that can't be bested, but it's not a matter of upholding a Jr. High code of honor to do so or not. It's because we are passionate about politics or passionate about the entertainment value of politics on this board.

    Yet almost every single post you make seems to indicate that you feel you are scoring big points and winning a lot of honor for yourself by making 13 year old insults, and supposed comebacks.

    That is highlighted by posts like this where you accuse others of playing the same Jr. High type game that you are.

    But no matter how much we argue our points and express our beliefs even when it sometimes turns personal, it is almost never in the same frame of mind that you post with.

    All I can say is that it isn't game of 7th grade put down vs. comeback where your honor is on the line every post you make, or everything you say. That just isn't the game being played here.
     
  3. Pistol Pete

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    You write a crap laden post like and I think you are actually dumb enough to believe it. I'm not playing to any crowd, that's exactly what my comment was to this group of needy for acceptance nerd herd who run around seeking acceptance by rubber stamping, for instance, Deckard's weak insult.

    You mention jr high because I'm sure that's where the wedgies started for you and these other nerds. Quit crying about remarks that come back at you when you and these other nerds are guilty of the same thing.

    Winning honor? LOFL. I don't know anyone here personally and I could give a damn what they think of me. I leave that to insecure attention seeking nerds to do. Keep on doing just that.

    Start with another of your ridiculous you can smell the change in the air with Obama's political. That smell was a juicy fart and Obama, Oprah and others have you thinking it was a rose.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    You deny it, and that's fine, I didn't really expect anything different, but your whole post is testament to exactly what I was saying.

    It's riddled with insults(which are all on the Jr. High level). I mean when is the last time someone went around calling people nerds and talking about wedgies meaning it to be an insult? The last time I can really remember that happening was Jr. high. Read your post. You actually made a fart joke. And you want to tell me your mind isn't in Jr. High?

    The fact that you feel the need to point out over and over that you claim Deckard's insult was weak just goes to show that you want to make sure everyone knows he didn't get a good comeback on you(because for some reason that apparently matters to you.) That's the exact Jr. High mentality that you've, for some reason, brought into your posts. The post quoted above is the perfect example.

    Your style isn't about posting and discussing anything, it's a combat to you, and you feel that "winning" or "losing" is on the line each and every time. The fear and bizarre intensity you place on these things is coming off of your posts in tsunami like waves.

    Add to all of it the fact that you are just making stuff up. To think that I hold any affection at all because of Oprah is ludicrous. You should search my name and Oprah, on this board just to see what I think of her.

    Yet in your mind you know why everyone likes Obama, and it couldn't possibly be because of his well thought out policies, and vision for leadership in your own head.
     
  5. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Well, libs, this proves your argument to be wrong. Dang it sucks to be right so often. Eh, I'm getting used to it. So for all of you saying that it's racist... well, Obama himself disagrees with you.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/seton-...are-sen-obama-paris-hilton-was-not-sen-mccain

    McCain Not First to Compare Obama to Paris Hilton

    The uproar of the media, serving as adjunct PR firms in defense of their beloved Sen. Barack Obama in response to Sen. John McCain's video comparing the Illinois Senator to Paris Hilton, was deafening. The ad was described as "nasty", "childish" and "juvenile", a "strange" "nuclear attack" for having dared to compare their anointed one to the brainless celebutant hotel heiress.

    Sen. McCain and his camp responded that it was all in good fun, and was made only to point out the ridiculous Tiger Beat-squealing teenage girl nature of the over-the-top, all-encompassing coverage thus far afforded Obama by his Paparazzi.

    But it appears that someone years ago beat Sen. McCain to the comparison punch.

    Would all of this overwrought press hysteria be rendered even sillier were it to turn out that Sen. McCain was in actuality quoting Sen. Obama? Methinks that it would.

    A February 24, 2005, Washington Post article begins:

    There's nothing exotic or complicated about how phenoms are made in Washington, and, more to the point, how they are broken.

    "Andy Warhol said we all get our 15 minutes of fame," says Barack Obama. "I've already had an hour and a half. I mean, I'm so overexposed, I'm making Paris Hilton look like a recluse."
    That is pretty much the who and the why of Sen. McCain's explanation of his ad, is it not? It turns out he wasn't mocking Sen. Obama so much as channeling him. Or making a mini-documentary out of the Post's article.

    Either way, it is just another example of the elite media not liking a Leftist's own words being used against him in the court of public opinion.

    Update: Time magazine had the quote as well. From their Verbatim section:

    [​IMG]


    OWNED
     
  6. Faos

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    <object width="464" height="388" classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000"><param name="movie" value="http://www2.funnyordie.com/public/flash/fodplayer.swf?96d0a705" /><param name="flashvars" value="key=64ad536a6d" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><embed width="464" height="388" flashvars="key=64ad536a6d" allowfullscreen="true" quality="high" src="http://www2.funnyordie.com/public/flash/fodplayer.swf?96d0a705" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed></object><div style="text-align:center;width: 464px;">See more <a href="http://www.funnyordie.com/paris_hilton">Paris Hilton</a> videos at Funny or Die</div>
     
  7. tinman

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    I thought this was pretty funny.

    I think if Mc Cain wants to woo younger voters he should go by
    EMCEE KANE
     
  8. B-Bob

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    Wow! I could change my party affiliation tomorrow if somebody gets to work with photoshop with this brilliant new ad campaign.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/VyBBuok6WI4&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/VyBBuok6WI4&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
     
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    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Paris_Hilton_responds_Really.html

    UPDATE: Obama spokesman Bill Burton reacts to Paris video: "Whatever."

    UPDATE: McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds emails: “It sounds like Paris Hilton supports John McCain’s ‘all of the above’ approach to America’s energy crisis - including both alternatives and drilling. Paris Hilton might not be as big a celebrity as Barack Obama, but she obviously has a better energy plan.”
     
  12. pgabriel

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    I know some guys are totally turned off by the skank factor, not me, I could watch that video over and over and over again
     
  13. mc mark

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    That McCain felt the need to respond to that ad shows how insecure he and his campaign have become.


    too funny...
     
  14. vlaurelio

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    after ridiculing paris hilton, he's happily getting assurance from her on his energy policy like she's an expert on it..

    so if obama as a celebtrity >>>>>>>>>>>>> paris hilton as a celebrity

    then obama's energy plan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> paris hilton's energy plan
     
  15. tinman

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    EMCEE MARC
     
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    at least he's getting some attention.
     
  17. Franchise2001

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    Yep, he had to use the short shirt, extra cleavage approach of "look at me, look at me" to get it.
     
  18. Major

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    Great response on Andrew Sullivan's blog (from a reader, I think):

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/substantive-par.html#trackback


    Watching the Hilton video, a few questions came to mind. First, why is that Paris Hilton’s fake ad includes more substantive talk about energy policy than John McCain’s real ad? Second, if writers helped Hilton with her script, and writers helped McCain with his script, why is it that Hilton seems to have a better grasp on policy details than McCain does? Shouldn’t that be, you know, the other way around? And third, why is it that a 27-year-old heiress/reality-show star can read a teleprompter better than the presumptive Republican presidential nominee?
     
  19. B-Bob

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    That's funny. But her energy policy talk was not particularly noteworthy or deep, really, compared to real McCain (or Obama) speeches on the topic.

    She is probably much much better with a teleprompter than any politician, having done seasons of a fake "reality" TV show. :)
     
  20. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Obama's God-complex continues to get beaten into submission by the McCain camp.

    Question: Do you own any stocks? If so, Obama would like very much to increase the taxes on any gains you make from those stocks. Over half of America would be impacted by this. It would hurt the value of stocks as well, and as was mentioned over and over at the debates, history shows that it decreases tax revenue. So it would lead to less money in your portfolio and a bigger budget deficit. Not exactly what our economy needs right now, is it?

    Don't let the Obama camp feed you the lie that only those making >$250k/year will get their taxes raised. It's pure BS.
     

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