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Obama Wants to Destroy Manned Spaceflight?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MR. MEOWGI, Nov 27, 2007.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    I'm not saying the NASA budget should go to the debt. I'm saying that if we didn't have the interest to pay on the debt funding NASA wouldn't be a problem.
     
  2. MR. MEOWGI

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    BTW, the money Obama wants to take away from NASA will go to funding "affordable pre-k education" i.e. free daycare.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    pre-K education isn't the same as daycare.
     
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    Of course it is. Real pre-k eduction is called parenting.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Not true. Pre-K actually helps students do well in school which helps students do well in college, in life keeps them off the streets etc.

     
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    It is true. My generation didn't go to pre-k. It was correctly called daycare back then. Now we are educated, working for space exploration only to have the funding taken away for daycare for those who can not afford the children they decide to have.
     
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    There is a difference. Daycare is looking after children while their parents work.

    Pre-K has had actual studies done, one of which I have posted. The evidence is seems pretty plain as to it's effectiveness.
     
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    I guess these "parents" should just give up their kids to the state the moment they are born. They are useless.
     
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    I don't understand why it has to be one or the other. Good parenting could and should go hand in hand.
     
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    A good parent would teach their kids everything and more that is taught in any pre-k class. We are talking about 3 year olds. There isn't that much to know. The only reason the state has to do it is because the parents wont. So now we want less funding and delay vital advancement to one of mankind's greatest endevours because of irresponsible, incompetent parents who really just want a free place to get their kids of of their homes? It is a travesty.

    Tell kids to reach for the stars, then take them away.
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    I don't think you or I can know the situations of all the parents who may or may not have multiple jobs, or may not speak English that the children will be learning in school, etc. Those children still should have the opportunity that other children will get as well.
     
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    Then make the parents pay for it. They are the ones deciding to have kids in those conditions. But why not, when you can get free daycare.
     
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    Some of the parents can't pay for it. Their children shouldn't suffer or be at a disadvantage because of that.
     
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    Why not? It's the only way people will learn not to have kids they can't afford.
     
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    Because it isn't just to punish or put children with no say in the matter at a disadvantage.
     
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    We are not doing it. Their parents are.
     
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    No we are doing it if we know there is something that will help them succeed in school, and in life and we opt not to do it.
     
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    I didn't decide to have the kid, they did. They are not my responsibility. These same parents say I can't have an opinion on raising kids because I don't have any. (which I purposely decided to do). But they can sure take money for free daycare.

    I am going to decide to buy a million dollar house that I can't afford. Do you want to lose your job to let me pay for it?
     
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    The government could help me right now by giving me money, but for some reason I'm getting punished.
     
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    There is also the evidence which shows that if we don't offer this to the parents their children may end up committing crimes which you will also have to pay for in the form of police, prisons, courts, trials etc.

    "An ounce of prevention... pound of cure" situation here. I'd rather the money be used for pre-school, giving them a chance to succeed and actually contribute to society.

    You buying a house you can't afford only hurts you, not any children who never had a say or choice in the matter.
     

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