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Obama to raise federal minimum wage via executive order

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by roxxfan, Jan 28, 2014.

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  1. wekko368

    wekko368 Member

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    Blaming obstructionist Republicans is an excuse.
     
  2. GladiatoRowdy

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    The bullsh!t is truly getting deep in here. The GOP never even considered compromising on the ACA, not at all, not one iota. Their only offer when asked to contribute to the process was "clean sheet of paper." Conservatives had a lot to offer, but chose not to, that is on the GOP, not on Obama.
     
  3. GladiatoRowdy

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    Accurately describing the events which transpired is hardly an "excuse."

    Lying about these events, which texx has, repeatedly, does indeed make him a liar.
     
  4. wekko368

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    Here's a simple yes/no question for you. Were the Democrats willing to compromise on the individual mandate?
     
  5. GladiatoRowdy

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    WTF are you talking about? I specifically said that Obama REFUSED to consider repealing, read much?
     
  6. Amiga

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    As mentioned, there were many Republican amendments. "Death penalty" provision was removed. Gov Option was removed. As pointed out by other, removing the individual mandate would doom the bill to failure -- recall again that the Republican came up with this idea of individual mandate. Now, the mandate can be removed if there is another idea to replace it -- there was none. Well, there is at least one, but it had no chance - single payer.
     
  7. Invisible Fan

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    Kudos for not taking the bait, but your mouth breathing brethren will make this a national issue and sway voters to the president's side
     
  8. GladiatoRowdy

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    About what time frame are you talking? Are you talking about when the GOP forced a government shutdown?
     
  9. Amiga

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    sorry about the double post

    Only after the Dem realize they are going nowhere. It didn't start off like that, it ended like that. I think you do understand the difference right?

    As mentioned, there were many Republican amendments. "Death penalty" provision was removed. Gov Option was removed. As pointed out by other, removing the individual mandate would doom the bill to failure -- recall again that the Republican came up with this idea of individual mandate. Now, the mandate can be removed if there is another idea to replace it -- there was none. Well, there is at least one, but it had no chance - single payer.
     
  10. wekko368

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    I read plenty. It seems like once again, you're unaware of the meaning of your words.

    Here's what you originally said:
    The logical implication of this sentence is that before the government was shut down, Obama was considering repealing Obamacare, and when the government shut down, Obama no longer considered repealing Obamacare.
     
  11. chrispbrown

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    There is no logical implication of that sentence. Do you know what a logical implication is? If a then b. so let's say if the gov was shut down, then Obama wouldn't consider repeal. Ok we can make that logical implication work, but there is no way to confirm truth logically in your statement...it is an assumption.
     
  12. Hustle Town

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    Would rep if I could.
     
  13. Hustle Town

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    Get ready for unemployment to go through the roof.
     
  14. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    As to the topic at hand, it seems most tend to focus on raising the minimum wage in the contract to $10+ from $7+, but what seems to go unsaid is what happens to the guy making $10 - does he now get a raise to $13+? Does the guy making $20 now get $24+? One's pay and difference between pay rates is a sign of doing better work or a higher degree of difficulty work. You can't just bump up the minimum wage and expect everyone else's salary to remain they same.
     
  15. Major

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    Sure - they spent (wasted) months and months negotiating with Republicans to get them on board when debating the actual policy. You know, the proper time to develop policy. At that point, the GOP was not interested in participating at all.

    After it was passed and being implemented? Of course not - why would they? It was already law.
     
  16. JuanValdez

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    I hope you're trolling. Government contracts don't obey the ordinary laws of supply and demand.
     
  17. Major

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    That's up to the federal contractors involved. As noted in the original article, this primarily affects the support personnel in government contract work - janitors, etc.
     
  18. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Health care insurance doesn't work without the mandate. It's basic math.

    Republicans have set fillibuster records. It's hardly just about health care. Pay attention.
     
  19. wekko368

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    Ironic, considering you've missed my point entirely.
     
  20. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Yes, Republicans didn't like health care so it was okay to give up on America, shut down the government, and cry about it. Apparently nobody is responsible for Republican obstructionism but Obama. Great job buddy, can't wait for the next post.

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