I agree we will have to withhold judgment on his bipartisanship until he has been in office for awhile. It's silly to complain about whining, it is the primary defense mechanism of the minority party. FYI your post shows a complete lack of respect so preach on .
i understand that a large percentage of bbs feels this way, but this isn't some universal belief amongst all obama supporters. there are tons of poeple, who supported obama and worked for him, who are disappointed with his selections so far. there simply aren't many moderates who have been appointed to deal with foreign policy issues. him going to bat for lieberman was incredibly disappointing.
Thus far there's only been one person appointed to deal with foreign policy issues - and as was pointed out durign the primaries, policywise it was very difficult to show much separation between Clinton & Obama.
I agree... it was disappointing. Joe is such an unctuous ass and I would never trust him. However, if you're dealing from a position of power, people who act only on ego are easily identified and dealt with. SO, I'm withholding judgment until I see how Joe votes on tough bills. I suspect Obama got some significant extractions from him during the course of all this.
am i allowed to consider anything before the primaries? and secondly biden and rahm will have significant influence in foreign policy as well. so including them is reasonable.
too many people want to be vindictive, I'm glad he's above this, like he should be. the stakes are too high. you need experienced people in this time of crisis. i'm not too happy about some picks but I recognize them for being pragmatic
none of my views are to get back at anyone. lieberman was a bad oversight & homeland security chair. simple as that. he didn't do his job. his version fo how the world should run loss with mccain losing. and hillary's been too hawkish in the senate. she voted for the iraq war. she's incredibly bellicose about iran. i would be thrilled if she was doing domestic policy. and im fine with biden and rahm. but both are hawkish. i'd like it counterbalanced. it hasn't been. thus im disappointed. and yes while obama may have not been the most progressive during the primaries, one of my concerns, his previous stuff has been in line with the left and there was an implicit belief of the left that he would govern more on the left than clinton. and while that is obviously left to be seen, the appointments thus far are a bit disappointing.
I appreciate your honesty. I am quite certain we are at far ends on most political points but honesty is always refreshing. Sometimes it feels like criticism of Obama is some sort of heinous crime.
No. Criticism on policies and implementation and political philosophy is expected, acceptable, and desired. Made-up stuff like he's a radical Christian atheist Muslim socialist communist who wants to silence political opponents, take away our guns, and burn our bibles is absurd and the person positing such stands is deserving of all ridicule thrown at them.
sorry bro, i haven't seen much of that from the right. its bullsh!t dumb hate. their argument essentially was that rashidi was a crazy palestinian, wright was a crazy benedict arnold, and lower taxes will give healthcare for the poor unemployed manufacturing worker. that being said obviously the obama groupies have a problem accept a critique from their own side. im sorry but rahm, ross and clinton (brooks mentioned dennis ross) don't inspire hope in my heart for US foreign policy, regardless of their competence. and i want the administration to have a healthy dose of hawks and doves. samantha powers would be a right step in that department.
All in a persons perspective. Plenty of Christians would consider Rev. Wright radical. Plenty of Christians would read Obama's honest assessment of his Christian views as basically not Christian at all. There is some evidence that Obama may have been registered as a Muslim as a child and the Muslim faith doesn't allow for "conversion" to something else. Comments like "spread the wealth" are going to come off sounding socialist and most people that are against Obama don't take the time to research his economic plans. Communist-maybe not Gun control is a concern to many people and the liberal agenda includes gun control. I think our Bibles are safe. He did complain about Fox news not treating him fairly when the other three news casts were already slanted significantly toward him. You can argue or marginalize all of the above points but the fact is that there are Americans however poorly informed that are concerned. In this country they deserve consideration. Don't they?
you're right, people who vote on crap issues deserve crap government. so you can defend it as people's right to be "concerned", while this country is going to hell in a hand basket, but I hope they don't complain when they have incompentent government. but at least those incompetent government officials will fight for them when selecting a supreme justice who wants to prohibit abortion. or maybe not.
There are plenty of voters who voted for Obama on "crap" issues and are just as uniformed... in fact, looking at the outcome of the election, probably a lot more of them. You have to admit the average American voter is only as informed as the television will allow and there really isn't much of any depth there. This is especially true if you only watch "your" channel. I have to admit I have enjoyed arguing with you fellers as I have had to research much of this more than I would have and find quite often that both sides are full of $hit. I just hate when I find out AFTER I opened my mouth.
The problem that you seem to have been having this whole thread is that you listened to what others have said Obama is rather than listening to Obama himself. It came back to bite before and now it's doing it again. Wright was radical in his politics. He was never a political adviser to Obama. What Obama said strikes me as very Christian. I don't think any other Christians should be passing judgement on whether or not he is. There is no credible evidence he was ever a Muslim. It shouldn't matter even if he was or currently is. Spreading the wealth is what our current tax system is. The amount of alarm raised over these non-issues has been silly.
you guys are posting about Reverend Wright..still? What month is this? Is LEH a good buy? Will the Mets win the WS? Is that Batman movie going to be any good?
I'm happy your happy. Did you read my post about perspective? Oh, FYI this thread is about Obama's appointments and whether or not they bother the progressives. I believe we have established that they do. I do apologize for derailing the thread. Back to your regularly scheduled program.
Obama could turn out to be a failed LBJ. He can't have guns and butter. Expanding the war in Afghanistan and fudging on withdrawing troops from Iraq, as I now expect, are not compatible with his domestic goals. If he actually tries to expand, not contract the military budget, he is doomed to fail. Hopefully retaining Gates for awhile is just saying that he is not that concerned about the whole war on terror. Maybe he can use Gates to fire the politico General Petreus so he does not have to do it himself. I am hoping Obama just wants to concentrate on the economy so let those who are still living in the "9/11 changed everything" past can relax.
