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Obama to McCain: You are old and stupid

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Apollo Creed, Sep 12, 2008.

  1. IROC it

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    The equation here is that, both claims may be false, or at least from the correct perspective.


    Obama has NOT reached across the aisle on any significant legislation. He even backed off of the recommendations of the sub-committee he was supposed to be a co-leader of concerning war.

    and

    It's false to think that the lack of email efficiency is a detriment to a POTUS abilities.

    By comparison, how many sitting Presidents have ever used email proficiently, given that it's a current decade (last ten years) phenomenon in the world? By and large the world's population did not even have an email address as recently as the late '90's. The "AOL revolution" really kicked in hard around '95... and even with those type services not every household bought in to the need.


    The Whitehouse has had many decades pre-www. that they had access to similar systems, but I'm positive the POTUS never had to run the teletype machine, or the Whitehouse switchboard on his own.


    LAUGHABLE "comeback" by the left.
     
  2. JunkyardDwg

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    This thread would seem to suggest otherwise...that elected officials serving in an executive capacity do actually communicate via email: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=153871

    Not like it's a huge deal or anything, but I would expect the leaders of this country to have at least a basic understanding of the current communications technologies that drive our society. It's not like computers or emailing or even texting is a passing fad...this is the world we live in today. And to not know how it works is somewhat alarming. I'd be fine if McCain knows how to use these devices but chooses to go "old school" and communicate in more personal ways. But this just seems to reaffirm the argument that he's "out of touch" however right or wrong that argument may be.
     
  3. krnxsnoopy

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    McSame and his delusional posse should just quit. Right now.

    Oh wait.. Family values.. :rolleyes:

    Forget that half of America is struggling to stay afloat. Let's just put a pretty face on TV and sing the same ol' song.
     
  4. Joshaaronb

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    "Our economy wouldn't survive without the Internet, and cyber-security continues to represent one our most serious national security threats," [Obama spokesman Dan] Pfeiffer said. "It's extraordinary that someone who wants to be our president and our commander in chief doesn't know how to send an e-mail."

    Oops....maybe they'll make fun of his yellow teeth next. Now WHICH party is bragging about being able to browse the Internet??

    http://graphics.boston.com/news/poli...a_fault+.shtml

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    McCain gets emotional at the mention of military families needing food stamps or veterans lacking health care. The outrage comes from inside: McCain’s severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. Friends marvel at McCain’s encyclopedic knowledge of sports. He’s an avid fan - Ted Williams is his hero - but he can’t raise his arm above his shoulder to throw a baseball.

    http://www.slate.com/id/74812/

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    "Six months ago, no one would have pegged McCain as the most cybersavvy of this year's crop of candidates. At 63, he is the oldest of the bunch and because of his war injuries, he is limited in his ability to wield a keyboard.

    http://www.forbes.com/asap/2000/0529/053_print.html

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    In certain ways, McCain was a natural Web candidate. Chairman of the Senate Telecommunications Subcommittee and regarded as the U.S. Senate’s savviest technologist, McCain is an inveterate devotee of email. His nightly ritual is to read his email together with his wife, Cindy. The injuries he incurred as a Vietnam POW make it painful for McCain to type. Instead, he dictates responses that his wife types on a laptop. “She’s a whiz on the keyboard, and I’m so laborious,” McCain admits.
     
  5. Apollo Creed

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    Oh my God, hilarious. Republicans have found a way to make him being unable to use the internet into a POW issue.
     
  6. mc mark

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    I've seen people that couldn't use their arms develop the ability to type with their feet. McCain should learn to do that! That would be awesome!
     
  7. Apollo Creed

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    How dare you!!! Did you not know that McCain had feet while he was a POW!?!? To even suggest he use his feet is ignoring that he was a POW!

    POW!!!
     
  8. BigBenito

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    It isn't that he can't use email, it is that he has the intellectual curiosity of a pig with lipstick.
     
  9. Invisible Fan

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    Your blatant sexism and ageism has made me punch a puppy.
     
  10. IROC it

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    If the ability to use a computer is some pre-requisite to being POTUS, I have a third and first grader at home that have passed that test. They log on to a major network everyday at school.






    McCain has more honor than any of you.
     
  11. Apollo Creed

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    Incredibly stupid logic.

    I think being a high school graduate is a pre-requisite to being president. That doesn't mean that being a high school graduate makes you qualified to be president.
     
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    Which is the exact point of the whole argument from OBAMACAMP...


    Stupid logic. Email? Seriously... Email?

    Are talking about Email?
     
  13. mc mark

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    And your third and first grader probably has as much foreign policy experience as Mccain's VP pick.

    McCain gave up his honor when he started spewing lies about his campaign, Obama and his VP Pick. Even his close friends don't know who he is anymore.
     
  14. IROC it

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    OBAMACAMP = STUPID LOGIC



    Learn to think.
     
  15. Apollo Creed

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    Actually, you still don't get it...but I'm amused by it, so I'll let you (attempt to) figure it out.
     
  16. mc mark

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    More on

    If there’s a common theme today, it’s the press taking McCain’s campaign to task for running a series of ads distorting Obama’s record and positions.

    AP's Babington writes, "Even in a political culture accustomed to truth-stretching, McCain's skirting of facts has stood out this week. It has infuriated and flustered Obama's campaign, and campaign pros are watching to see how much voters disregard news reports noting factual holes in the claims. McCain's persistence in pushing dubious claims is all the more notable because many political insiders consider him one of the greatest living victims of underhanded campaigning. Locked in a tight race with George W. Bush for the Republican presidential nomination in 2000, McCain was rocked in South Carolina by a whisper campaign claiming he had fathered an illegitimate black child and was mentally unstable."

    The Los Angeles Times’ Rainey: "News organizations and these admirable truth-squadding outfits, including PolitiFact.com, do not collaborate. But in independent news reports and commentaries this week, they seemed to reach a consensus to say ‘enough’ to the McCain camp's efforts to demonize Barack Obama. I'm not saying that Obama hasn't told a few whoppers -- like suggesting McCain's proposed corporate tax breaks are tailored specifically for oil companies or that his opponent seriously believes anyone making under $5 million is middle-class. But it's McCain and his foot soldiers who have really fouled the election airwaves in recent days, provoking the first flickerings of a backlash from the media."

    Paul Krugman also gets into the act. “But I can’t think of any precedent, at least in America, for the blizzard of lies since the Republican convention. The Bush campaign’s lies in 2000 were artful -- you needed some grasp of arithmetic to realize that you were being conned. This year, however, the McCain campaign keeps making assertions that anyone with an Internet connection can disprove in a minute, and repeating these assertions over and over again.”

    The Washington Post does a deeper dive into the story of Cindy McCain's addiction. "In describing her struggle with drugs, McCain has said that she became addicted to Vicodin and Percocet in early 1989 after rupturing two disks and having back surgery. She has said she hid her addiction from her husband, Sen. John McCain, and stopped taking the painkillers in 1992 after her parents confronted her. She has not discussed what kind of treatment she received for her addiction, but she has made clear that she believes she has put her problems behind her.”

    “While McCain's accounts have captured the pain of her addiction, her journey through this personal crisis is a more complicated story than she has described, and it had more consequences for her and those around her than she has acknowledged. Her misuse of painkillers prompted an investigation by the Drug Enforcement Administration and local prosecutors that put her in legal jeopardy. A doctor with McCain's medical charity who supplied her with prescriptions for the drugs lost his license and never practiced again. The charity, the American Voluntary Medical Team, eventually had to be closed in the wake of the controversy. Her husband was forced to admit publicly that he was absent much of the time she was having problems and was not aware of them."

    Writes CBN's Brody, “The Brody File has learned that the offer of a short video from vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin to folks at this weekend’s Value Voters Summit has been turned down by its president, Tony Perkins. A source inside John McCain’s campaign tells me that Palin was set to record the video Wednesday in Virginia before she left for Alaska. But when the McCain campaign approached Perkins about offering the video rather than a personal appearance Perkins said, according to numerous witnesses, ‘That’s not enough.’”

    The Brody File contacted Tony Perkins and he told us: “Values voters have been excited by the pro-family and pro-life content of the 2008 GOP platform. It is a model we want to see all parties embrace. The excitement over Gov. Sarah Palin has spread across the country and is undiminished. As this hectic campaign got underway, we renewed our invitations to the major party tickets to address our Summit for 20 minutes each. That standard format was done to ensure fairness and to spare us another round of intrusive IRS inquiries regarding favoritism toward any candidate or party. Though we prevailed against an unwarranted complaint last year, winning an all-clear from the IRS cost us thousands in legal fees and staff time. Accepting any video from one campaign would have violated a proven format and exposed us to a complaint that all the candidates did not receive this option. We expect to have a tremendous event the next two days.”

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/12/1382169.aspx
     
  17. IROC it

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    The arguement placed by the OBAMACAMP is a moot point, and is the stupid logic.


    Email abilities do not make you a POTUS candidate.


    But hey... the great OBAMANATOR will lead us to email proficiency by the year 2010. :rolleyes:


    Let's just post a lot of off topic crap and hope no one sees that the original attack has no merit.
     
  18. bucket

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    This is simply false.

    http://lugar.senate.gov/press/record.cfm?id=278019

    "WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL) and Richard Lugar (R-IN) today announced that the Senate Appropriations Committee accepted their request to provide funding to implement the Lugar-Obama nonproliferation initiative. The Appropriations Committee expressed support for the initiative and provided $48 million for Lugar-Obama, $36 million for programs to destroy heavy conventional weapons, $10 million for efforts to intercept weapons and materials of mass destruction, and $2 million for rapid response to proliferation detection and interdiction emergencies. This is the culmination of an 18 month effort to authorize and fund the Lugar-Obama initiative."

    So, because email wasn't extremely important until a decade ago, it can't be important now? How many sitting Presidents have used cell phones proficiently?

    Besides that, how incredibly incurious does one have to be to be unable to use email in 2008? Especially someone who would seem to have so many people/projects to work with?

    This post betrays some serious problems with logical rhetoric. Computer literacy as a prerequisite does not preclude the existence of other prerequisites. Your children, though they may be skilled with computers, lack other qualifications for President. John McCain has other qualifications, but his inability to use email in the year 2008 absolutely should give voters pause.
     
  19. mc mark

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    Well he isn't president yet but....


    (guitars and cool baseline precede entry)

    [​IMG]


    BO: Who's the half-black private d!ck who's a sex machine with all the chicks.

    Back up singers: Obama!

    BO: Ya daaaaaamn right. Who's the cat who won't cop out when the Clintons are about?

    Obama!

    BO: I hear that cat Obama is one bad mother...

    Shutyourmouth!

    But I'm just talkin' bout Obama!
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Maybe, but I will bet he doesn't think Dinosaurs walked the earth in Glenrose Texas.

    ;)

    DD
     

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