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Obama to deny FEMA funds to states that deny man-made climate change

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tallanvor, Mar 23, 2015.

  1. Deji McGever

    Deji McGever יליד טקסני

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    tallanavor, can you post a photo of your teeth? I need to know how simple my English needs to be to respond to you.
     
  2. tallanvor

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    sweet post. the 'ur dumb' argument. Always compelling and conducive to good discussion.

    Don't bother responding to me. I'm not gonna read it. Next time start with your argument instead of an insult. Insults are not a substitute for reason If you are gonna be insulting at least throw in some reasoning.
     
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    If Obama's policies had popular support, he wouldn't need to resort to extortion to implement them.
     
  4. Major

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    If Obama's policies had popular support, he'd win elections. Oh wait...
     
  5. Faust

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    i made some new friends at school and they pointed me to some websites, youtube channels, and books. ive been a learning a lot these past few months and my opinion on a lot things has been changing like abortion, socialism, religion, and now climate change. my family and old friends aint been taking it too well.
     
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    1) i'm willing to spend trillions if even 75% of scientists agree on something this deadly for our species
    2) i can't address the chart because i dont know what's going on there. i just look at who made it and what's been said about that source. if a scientist brought up data saying weed is dangerous and had fancy pics of mri's and ct scans, i'd be skeptical because it flies in the face of most scientists.

    i aint smart enough to debate this too well so i look to consensus in the field and trust the experts.
     
  7. tallanvor

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    No; you look to what people tell you is the consensus (where do u get 75% from?). Its sad that you are willing to hand over your money and liberties because a group of 'experts' tells you to do so. You work hard for that money and the least you can do is educate yourself on the issue before handing it over. 'I'm to stupid to know how to spend my money' is not very compelling. You won't convince others to have this attitude. Have more respect for yourself.
     
  8. Amiga

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    Not being prepare for climate change is popular? I think if you poll the general population, they would be in favor of being prepare. Plan for the worst, hope for the best, right? Or do you think it's better to do no planning and hope for the best?

    FEMA has disaster-preparedness grants. They grant money to certain States that are at risks. I don't think extortion is the right term when you are giving away money. This is likely simply a set of new requirements for grants (as there are always some set of requirements for grants).
     
  9. CometsWin

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    Nice. Props for seeking out information from reputable sources rather than just accepting what people close to you are saying. My brother sounds like your family. He regurgitates whatever my father shovels him. He knows everything he supports but really is so ignorant he doesn't have the first clue as to why he supports it.
     
  10. Faust

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    what? do you see me second-guess the military when it comes to strategy or buying which weapons or sending which troops in what capacity? do you see me tell molecular geneticists what areas of research are promising? do i advise wall street firms where and how to invest? do i tell HUD where to build housing projects? lot of things in life are complicated, and from what i've read (and i read a lot) the climate scientists agree on climate change and man's role and what needs to be done. that graph you showed me is **** and i need to look at how it was made. im not informed enough about that one graph but im informed enough to know why i support climate scientists of which 97% agree. ive had this conversation lotta times online which is why i link to that website because it gets tiring. and that graph is made by a dude who isn't worth my time based on that article i linked.

    your a condescending prick who assumes too much when people don't debate with you and uses libertarian ideology because you're too cheap and selfish about money being spent to save our species. ive been reading your posts for a damn long time and i know how they end. my hw is more important and i got class tm so getting back to it.
     
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    why does everything become political in the US, it's comical at this point

    people will literally regurgitate one little website about a subject and all the other literature studies done by thousands and thousands of scientists just because the "left" believes in global warming??? like wtf
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    The democrats got obliterated in the last midterm congressional elections -- a direct referendum on Obama's unpopular policies.
     
  13. NewRoxFan

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    Perhaps comparing Obama's approval ratings to, say, the GOP congress might be a useful view of "referendums'?

    btw, for a third March in his second term, Obama's approval ratings is much higher than his predecessor's, and even higher than Ronald Reagan's.

    source: http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx
     
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    "Experts" who get paid to disagree
     
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    what's the percentage of military experts who said Saddam had WMD?
     
  16. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Stop it with the racial undertones. It's disgusting.
     
  17. Faust

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    i dunno you tell me the percentage boss. whats your definition of a military expert? who were the people qualified to be knowledgeable about saddam's WMDs? is it only military experts or other people not typically considered military experts? id prefer if you answer me with a twitter post and a few sentences but remembering your style i doubt you'll be back for a second helping.
     
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    Questions: Is all science absolute? Is part of science absolute? Is non of science absolute?

    If the answer to the first question is yes, then it's pointless even having a discussion! If science is not absolute, especially in regards to weather, then having different views and opinions should surprise no one! Is there climate change? Of course!!! NOTHING stays the same forever! What is causing the climate change? Well it depends who you ask! Usually the answer coincides with the agenda of the entity paying their mortgage! Funny how that works!

    I think that in regard to climate change we should hope for the best and plan for the worse! Regardless if climate change is man made or not, or how severe the change will be, to gamble on our offspring's future is being blatantly foolish!

    As far as Obama denying FEMA funds to certain states, I think that's showing bad leadership! The decision to withhold funds could impact millions of people should a disaster occur! The funds are preparedness funds in the event a disaster/catastrophe occur, and those funds would be denied...why? Because your governor doesn't agree with the President on the cause of the disaster? That's pure bipartisan bullcrap! The government should help and aid ALL of it's people not only the ones who agree with a certain agenda!
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  19. fchowd0311

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    Here is the problem. The debate about man made climate change isn't between scientists and other scientists. It's between right wing political pundits and scientists. It's the same story with young earth creationism and evolution. The debate is between laymen and scientists not scientists disputing data and conclusions.
     
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    I expect more from a doc. Let's get real Doc Tal. People have shown piece after piece of evidence of what a huge percentage of Climate experts and scientists agree about man made climate change. They've also shown how many of the folks that try and deny it aren't aren't legit.

    You haven't been able to show a number or percentage of those who disagree with it. Not once.

    For you to keep pretending and trying to argue that there isn't an overwhelming scientific consensus only shows that you are either out of touch, ignorant, don't understand what a scientific consensus means, are lying or being dishonest, or all of the above.
     

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