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It's very easy to sway the opinions of American voters with a non-stop nearly two year war of propaganda, lies, and emotional manipulation (death panels!). If people's opinions were actually based on educated reasoning, I would put more stock in it, but most people are idiots.

 

Please give me one example of a bill that has been proposed by Republicans when they were in power and was opposed by every single Democrat. It will further help your claim that Dems are just as bad if this bill is almost identical to one that was earlier proposed and supported by Democrats and was implemented at the state level by a Democratic governor who then opposed the bill.

I didn't say Democrats don't obstruct. But the level of obstructionism by Republicans since Obama became president is, to the best of my knowledge, unprecedented in American history.

 

If people(Americans) are so stupid then maybe a democracy isn't for you. Go try an African dictatorship, it may be more to your liking.

 

The reason for all the "obstructionism" is because the American people(their constituents) hate all the Democrat's ideas. It is not Republicans stopping anything, it is the American people 100%. The health bill would of been finished in about 2 months had the American people not stepped up and told their representatives how they feel. Same thing could be said for this bill.

 

Nonsense. The obstructionism began the day Obama went into office, which happened to be a time when he had 60-70% approval ratings. It was a publicly stated political strategy by the GOP.

Right now, the GOP is even obstructing their own ideas, when proposed by Obama.

 

If being duped by the oligarchy's propaganda is for you, Russia has it going on.

 

NO! I'm not waisting my time digging up a bill for you to prove my point. I feel your frustration but it goes both ways. It started in the Clinton era and only got leniency in the Bush era because of 9/11. You'd be called UnAmerican if you tried to stand in that Admin's way. Now you're called racist. It's a total non-functional joke on both sides. It's not even worth the arguement. Both sides do it and they suck for doing so. Do you not think the Dems will do the same come next Rep. President? (Warning: You may be called a chouvanist sexist!)

 

If he wants to roll back civil rights, lie to make a case for war, run up deficits with tax breaks for the rich, privatize social security, limit tort relief against business, dominate the judiciary with fundamentalist litmus test proven judges, over rule the purpose of the executive bureaucracy to rule by fiat .... then yep, the Dems will probably obstruct that.

 

Uhm...so where do you propose we get the money for this? Obama has already increase the deficit $3 trillion dollars and he is only half way done with his presidency.

And for that matter I thought that was what the other stimulus money was for; "shovel ready jobs" as I seem to recall.

The American people (me) are sick and tired of being asked to do more with less while a spend thrift government borrows this country and its citizenry into bankruptcy.

 

Nonsense. As Major pointed out, this started from day one. Obama was voted in with more than 50% of the vote running a platform that Republicans immediately began to oppose. It had nothing to do with the will of the people. They did it so that they could make American people continue to suffer until the next elections and point the finger at Dems for failing to solve any of our problems.

 

So you ignore my entire post and continue to post the same unsubstantiated garbage. When asked for some evidence, you claim that it would be a waste of your time to find some. First off, that's not exactly conducive to "debate and discussion." Second, if the evidence is so abundant (because it happens all the time), it shouldn't be that hard to find one example.

I will repeat: the level of obstructionism demonstrated by Republicans since Obama became president is, to the best of my knowledge, unprecedented in American history.

 

I thought they couldn't make the country suffer. The Democrats (I hate all this taking sides crap) can pass anything they want.

 

Who is dumber here?

You, or me for responding?

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The fact that the Republicans opposed the health care bill isn't what stalled it. The American people did. The fact that the Republicans oppose this bill isn't whats gonna prevent it from being passed. The fact the American people don't want it will prevent it from being passed. We are 8 weeks from elections, do you think Dems are gonna jump at the chance to support a bill with 31% approval from Americans?

 

Nope, you don't live in a democracy, you live in a republic.
The people elect the representatives that the party bosses can get money for.
The people depend on the press for information and opinion but the press is paid for by corporations.

The people know what they are told. Politicians do what the money wants.

If you don't believe me, just watch your evening "News". 15 minutes of muckless stories and 15 minutes of pharmaceutical ads.

 

I pick which media source I get information from, and if the information was incorrect because of some "corporation" paying them off then I would not use that source. This isn't Saudi Arabia

 

And what source would that be?

 

I check multiple news aggregates, so I get a collection of tons of sources and ignore those that have a bad reputation for inaccurate information.

 

Are any of them ad free? Who is paying the writer?

CNBC has never busted a bogus stock.
Fox is owned by Rupert freaking Murdoch
Is there a family owned newspaper left in America?
Is there a subscription based hard news magazine in America, one that doesn't get most of it's revenue from ads?
Is there more than one left wing media voice (Mother Jones?) have you ever read one?

The idea of a free press is an anachronism and has been since, maybe the early 70's. And if you have never seen it, you won't know you are missing it. The last of it that I can really remember was the opposition to the Viet Nam war.