right that is the argument. That there was an act of her own doing that resulted int he situation. But to think in the abstract even if she made that choice at what point can she change her mind.
correct the argument of right your own body vs right to life will be a thing of the past if technology advances to the point that once conception takes place that the baby can survive without any "use" of or attachment to the mothers body. but that is not the only argument surrounding the issue of abortion.
I'm trying to animate the little baby inside of her ready-to-abort mother who also wants control over her own body... if she only knew that she needed to fight for it.
If her own life is in danger due to the pregnancy. Then she has a choice I would say but even then some women who go that far seem to choose for the baby even putting themselves at risk.
I am not going to argue with you because I think I have explained both sides pretty well here. I don;t really care what anyone's take on it is. I had to debate both sides of this in undergrad english class for a midterm so it is kinda played out for me.
Thanks for the thoughtful answer. I was hoping for more replies. What if the pro-life candidate was also in favor of the death penalty? Would that alter your perception? Does one cancel the other?
the only thing you are asking is if anyone here is a single issue vote. There are several in the gun rights and abortion crowd on both sides. Now all you are asking is if he is a two issue voter.
Wow, thanks man. I feel so enlightened. You seem to know a whole lot. Can you make me a list to save me some time?
1. Guns are cool 2. bewbs are cool 3. Jazz fans are ghey 4. ESPN loves Boston 5. Bright flashlights are cool 6. Scalia knows more about law then Fisher thats all I got for now, if you need more let me know.
It's hard to find many candidates who are both anti-abortion and anti-death penalty. Like I said, there is an element of justice, no matter how you look at it in the death penalty. There is no element of justice in abortion.
Nice. I can't argue with anything on that list. While I may agree with Fisher more often than I do with Scalia, I would have to go with Scalia on knowledge of the law.
Thanks twy77. While I don't think that allowing one issue to dictate your vote for someone you do not support is pragmatic, and fraught with potentially dire consequences, I respect your stance on the abortion issue. I do see wiggle room. A progressive candidate willing to invest in real education and health care to prevent unwanted pregnancies could potentially do more to end abortion than someone using the emotional issue as a wedge.
I disagree. Those that do not have a voice, need someone to speak for them. Whether or not anyone listens, is another story. Who should speak for my children if they can't speak for themselves? Who speaks for the homeless and those less fortunate if they don't have a voice? Regardless of the issue, shouldn't we speak out against injustice towards others? Those listening can choose to agree, disagree or ignore those speaking. If I think that the poor are getting a bum rap, should I ignore them since it doesn't apply to me?
I would support banning abortion when we have the medical science to extract the fetus from the mother and bring it to term artificially. The woman should have the right to choose whether or not her uterus is used to bring a fetus to term and bear it. I believe in reasonable restrictions (the decision should be made early, teens should have to notify their parents, etc.), but it is her choice to make upon consultation with her family, her doctor, and her God.
As do I. That is why I will fight against the injustice of our government telling a woman that she is legally obligated to use her uterus to bring a fetus to term and bear it. That would be a grave injustice.
Until the fetus can survive outside the uterus, the woman should have the right to choose. She gets to decide what happens inside her body. Until the fetus can survive outside the womb, it can reasonably be called a parasite if that is how the woman feels about it.
How did your mother ever forgive you for such an intrusion? Please keep using this type of language as it only helps your cause! It's not like the woman's body was designed to bear children, anyway! That makes it exactly like a parasite!
tip: if you want to have a real conversation with some sense of rationality...where the other side doesn't stop listening because they're offended....don't use the word "parasite" to describe an unborn child.
