You don't think so? What about when the Katrina evacuees received their pre-paid credit cards and hit the titty bars and liquor stores? That was probably the feel-good story of the year.
Now come on Texx that is picking out random idiotic acts. Most people used it for what it was meant for (Based on my perception of victims I have come across. But truthfully since Katrina was an event that changed peoples lives instantly in a couple of days. U had to give them something to get back on their feet. Slavery and racism's effect is more of a generational effect so teaching and counseling and helping to build is more warranted.
1. What is wrong with reparations? 2. Why are white americans so against reparations? 3. Why is there so much hate or the "wishing of failure" for Obama?
1. It's been 150 years since the end of slavery and it would be damned near impossible to figure out who might owe what. That's just for starters, but it's enough by itself. 2. I believe any thinking person would be against the concept. Why single out "whites?" 3. I can't answer your question and don't know how true it is, except for a small vocal minority. I'm against voting for him in the primary due to his plans for NASA, but have every intention to support him should he get the nod. Impeach Bush.
Who pays for reparations? Our tax dollars. Keep in mind its not only the whites who pays taxes. Our government went to war to end slavery. Perhaps we should back bill the families of the slaves?
This is the most important thing to remember in any discussion about reparations. There are some, not all, but some people who support the idea of reparations, but don't really think of it in terms of tax dollars having to fund it rather than funding the other budget items. These would be the same people who would yell the loudest about a budget that does not balance. The money has to come from somewhere, and as Deckard pointed out...who gets paid? There have been several generations since slavery ended. Also, what value is put to it? It is so difficult to calculate it that you'd have to just throw a number out there. It's just a dumb idea at this point.
We know you and your brother don't want people of color in your haunts. Lapdances can't be as much fun with those virile, intimidating black men at the next table over. Wanna hear what those pre-paid cards did for my six (now five) family members who lost two homes and one business and one life in the aftermath of Katrina? No? But they're white -- are you sure? I can't believe this thread is (A) still open, and (B) allowed to keep it's title. Can I start similar threads about Romney? Too bad I'm more interested in substantive discussion when I can find it. [bizarro_Jorge] Romney hangs out with a lot of people that don't drink, so is he going to revisit prohibition? Will he take the next step of banning coffee and coke? No really, honest questions there. Can we take the chance?[/bizarro_Jorge] pgabs, your joke posts in this thread are top notch. It at least added a tiny bit of value via humor. Still a net negative reading.
The great thing about reparations is that we can make it be whatever we want it to be. The issues regarding assigning blame for slavery, beneficiaries of slavery, victims of slavery, and so forth are a waste of time. It's an absurd exercise to reconcile damages to people based on ancestry when as a nation those injuries were brought upon people by a simple examination of their skin color. Furthermore, any American that participates in this economy is a de facto beneficiary of slavery in this country. The fact is we don't really need to address those points at all to have a serious discussion on the subject on what can and should be done. Reparations can be a great vehicle for change in black America if we approach it the right way.
Couldn't agree more, B-Bob. Some mod ought to notice how idiotic it is and close the damn thing. If people want to talk about reparations, and I can understand why some might find it interesting (I don't, particularly, but whatever floats someone's boat... ), then start a thread without a grossly misleading title. Impeach Bush.
Obama reiterates his support for slave reparations earlier today: "I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it's Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds." http://starbulletin.com/2008/07/28/news/story05.html Did he accidently let that slip? Who knows, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he were trying to conceal that until after the American voting public had made up its mind. I do honestly believe he supports slave reparations. The quote above unequivocally suggests that Obama wants to offer slave reparations. That you can not dispute.
Obama is on record as being against reparations and nothing you've posted contradicts that stance. I do approve of you not starting up another thread and bringing back this one instead.
"I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it's Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds." - Slave Reparations Supporter, Barack Obama How can you interpret that any differently? You simply can not. Is this Obama's economic stimulus plan? Shake down the American taxpayer for trillions of dollars and funnel that to AA's?
Until you offer some proof of Obama supporting slave reparations, there isn't too much more to be said.
no politician in their right mind would support that. it's pure neo-conservative spin. and frankly, it's what tires me about the right these days and what has pushed me from a republican to vote for someone like obama.
He could have easily been talking about the reparations paid to the Japanese-Americans rounded up during WWII... you know, like Reagan and Bush Sr. supported... Notice in his quote there's a distinct separation between "Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations." Deeds could easily be things like the Voting Rights Act or the Indian Health Service or the already mentioned reparations for internees. And in other news, I'm off to the Plumas National Forest in 8 hours... http://inciweb.org/incident/1441/ I'll be traveling with a happy heart for we just got Ron Freaking Artest for scraps. Woohoo!
