No, that's a terrible analogy. The draw Muhammad day was for children. Building this cultural center is something real adults do. Maybe those angry people should stop watching Fox News and educate themselves instead of being pissed off for all the wrong reasons.
I think that the victims families and surviving victims of 9/11 should be the ones who decide rather the mosque is built or not.
What do you guys not understand about the constitution? the only people that can decide if the mosque goes up or not is the property owners, if they want it to go up it goes up. there is NO grey zone. the constitution guarantees it.
Including the Muslim victims and their families who were killed in the 9/11 attacks? Actually it might be nice for them to have some input, but their input should not trump our constitution.
Sure we do. Go do a little research. And it doesn't depend on "motives." The Constitution and our history are pretty clear on this to anyone who's paying attention.
And you just contributed to it by framing the "argument" (which is manufactured claptrap) as you did. Man or mouse Ref? One of those two positions is not like the other and if you're going to pretend they are, you have gone down inestimably in my book. How can anyone who writes so eloquently as you do on religious matters not see with clarity what is going on here and what dangers that holds? How can one who is a follower of Christ not be aware of the history of intolerance visited on your faith? How can an American who has a modicum of historical understanding vacillate in such a way? Come on.
I would actually like to see a poll of victims and families to see if there is any real opposition there. If it turned out they were mostly ok with the center being built, that would make all these dumbass conservatives look even worse for manufacturing a fake controversy based on the feelings of people who aren't actually offended.
The fair housing act bars the real estate company from discriminating against the religion. So if the muslims put up the cash its theirs.
I am sorry that you took anything personally, but this entire thread is full of both sides claiming some kind of moral superiority. Seeing both sides to a debate may make me beneath the debate. Failure to see both sides to a debate makes one shortsighted on the issue and seals the ultimate futile result of never resolving the dispute. Of course, it is a very convenient mental construct to be so convinced of your moral superiority on an issue as to be able to assume what is in the hearts and minds of thousands of people...simply because they disagree with you on where a building should be built. Odd indeed. It is, however, entertaining to watch these threads where two groups of people pat each other on the back about how they "get it" and how awful everybody else is. You want to know why our nation is in the **** pot it is in now? That's why. Demonization rather than earnest discussion.
It shouldn't and won't be stopped in the courts (Most people in America feel this way according to every poll). I am still not convinced it will be built though. Who would build it? No construction company is gonna risk losing all their business to build it. And they will lose all their business when 70 percent of the American population doesn't want this thing built.
I hate this argument that Americans can build anything anywhere. Ever heard of zoning laws? Its why you can't build a liquor store next to an elemnentary school. New York law will permit this place to be built but that doesn't make others inappropriate for believing certain elements shouldn't be allowed in certain enviorments. I would say no religious structures should be constructed in the area. It doesn't belong to them; It belongs to others.
Do you really think it is always worthwhile to see "both sides" of a debate? Do you not think there are some cases where one side is grounded entirely in either misinformation or prejudice? How do you have earnest discussion with people who feel that the US Constitution is only valid when it suits their needs?
Difference between legal freedoms and good judgement. Anyone saying that there should be some legal battle over this is just wrong and would set a horrible precedent. I don't think Obama did anything wrong here. That doesn't make him pro Muslim, it makes him pro freedom. If some people think the mosque is a bad idea, well it may or may not be. I'm really not in any position to judge.
How many people, especially in this thread, are advocating that the US government intervene and stop them from building this mosque? It seems like very few. Lots of people oppose the building of it, some with better reasons than others, but I don't see that many people calling for govt intervention.
