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Obama supports Ground Zero Mosque

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by durvasa, Aug 14, 2010.

  1. basso

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    try=deny?
     
  2. DonnyMost

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    So I'm ignorant and bigoted?

    Awesome rhad. Just awesome. Maybe you should take over the Darth handle for a while.

    Sending some imaginary negative rep to you. :(
     
  3. HorryForThree

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    lol okay. I can see we're not getting very far.

    In this thread alone you quoted a deleted tweet from an unnamed official, which apparently was relevant to this debate, but syndicated radio hosts who make deplorable remarks get ignored. It undermines your credibility significantly.
     
  4. MadMax

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    I'm trying to understand your position:

    is it that you would oppose the construction of any building being carried out by a religious organization? in this case...it just happens to be a mosque in the WTC area. but it could just as well be a new church in Houston. or a buddhist temple in Nashville.

    is that right?
     
  5. rhadamanthus

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    Unless you can provide some alternative rationale other than the five points I laid out and adequately defend them....yes, sorry.

    I suppose, if I was to play along and pretend your motivation was "to stop the spread of religion" than no, it's not ignorant or bigoted. But it's definitely odd that I have not seen the "Donnymost-no-more-religious-buildings-in-the-USA-to-stop-the-spread-of-religion-campaign" until this particular point in time.

    Regardless of that strange coincidence, said attitude/campaign is moot anyway.
     
  6. basso

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    well, i saw the deleted tweet- i did not see hannity. and i'm not sure what this has to do with the Dome of the Landing Gear.
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    Yep. :)

    Of course, the whole WTC/911 thing makes this a bit more high profile when it comes to the great cosmological battle of ideologies.

    And some religions I am more opposed to than others, Buddhism, for example, I have less objection to compared to Islam and Christianity, etc.
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    Tell me, DarthManthus, when would I have had a realistic or appropriate opportunity to launch my "no-more-religious-buildings-in-the-USA-to-stop-the-spread-of-religion-campaign"?

    In case you didn't catch it, I stated this exact viewpoint as my first post in this thread, fyi.
     
  9. MadMax

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    wow. ok.

    Happy the Constitution is alive and well.

    Also happy you're not the Supreme Ruler, Comrade! :grin:

    (you're aware that an assload of the food banks in Houston are based out of these buildings, right?)
     
  10. Deckard

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    I've been following this with some dismay and I was wondering. When I took my family to the site of the World Trade Center a few years back, never dreaming at the time that there still wouldn't be something built there by now, a memorial, a new trade center, something, I was struck by the fact that there was a MacDonald's directly across the street. I mean literally across the street. A two story MacDonalds. The second story, looking out over this place of tragedy, was a good spot to snap pictures from, yet I found it offensive to have a burger chain eatery there, a lousy burger chain eatery there. Maybe it was a Burger King. Still lousy. Why haven't people protested against that?
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    Never said I would ever want the government to outlaw it.

    I discourage that particular view and encourage my own through activism and the spread of knowledge.

    Even if I were the supreme ruler, I'd let people do what they wanted (although things might get a little complicated if they started killing each other over it), but I would highly encourage them to follow a non-religious path, including non-violence.
     
  12. basso

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    construction workers need somewhere to eat. there's a Subway on a crane on the actual site of the freedom tower. it rises with the building, floor by floor.
     
  13. SamFisher

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    via thinkprogress:

    President's Daily Briefing August 6, 2001:

    Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.

    Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate Bin Ladensince 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the U.S. Bin Laden implied in U.S. television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and "bringthe fighting to America."

    http://fas.org/irp/cia/product/pdb080601.pdf

    9-11 commission:

    [President Bush] did not recall discussing the August 6 report with the Attorney General or whether Rice had done so.

    We have found no indication of any further discussion before September 11 among the President and his top advisers of the possibility of a threat of an al Qaeda attack in the United States

    Washington Post, August 7

    Bush seemed carefree as he spoke about the books he was reading, the work he was doing on his nearby ranch, his love of hot-weather jogging, his golf game and his 55th birthday.

    heckuva job, bushie!
     
  14. basso

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    oh, and if at the penultimate moment, had Mohammed atta yelled Ronald McDonald instead of Allah Akbar, i'm sure people's feelings about the golden arches might be different.
     
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    damn you bush. if you werent reading you could have swatted the planes from the sky :mad:
     
  16. MadMax

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    i appreciate that...supreme ruler was in jest, entirely.
     
  17. basso

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    you keep ****ing that camel.
     
  18. SamFisher

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    Only if you keep pretending to give a sh-t about september 11, which you really don't.
     
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    That's a reasonable answer and a reasonable post, basso. If you made the vast majority of your posts in the same vein, reasonable, instead of trolling in an effort to get people angry, littering D&D with countless threads attempting to do exactly that, some people here might actually pay attention to you, instead of yelling at you, which I would not find pleasant. Sadly, you seem incapable of such a thing.

    Yes, I sometimes look at your posts. I typically regret doing so.
     
  20. rhadamanthus

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    I dunno, but there have been a variety of threads wherein religion was discussed and this could have been articulated. Regardless of that, I do not think such an attitude is bigoted or ignorant. I would, however, argue it totally irrelevant/confusing in regards to this thread.

    Fair enough. I thought this topic so undeniably ridiculous that I tried to avoid reading/posting about it.
     

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