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Obama supporters list 3 accomplishments or positive things he has done

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by body slam, Sep 23, 2012.

  1. Northside Storm

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    To illustrate my point---

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  2. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Yeah, too bad.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/21/u...over-obamas-jobs-bill-now-piecemeal.html?_r=0

    WASHINGTON — For the second time in 10 days, the Senate on Thursday rejected Democratic efforts to take up a jobs bill championed by President Obama.

    The vote to advance the bill was 50 to 50. Democrats needed 60 votes to overcome a Republican filibuster.

    This time, the bill was narrowed to provide $35 billion to state and local governments to prevent layoffs of teachers, police officers and firefighters. To offset the cost, the bill would impose a surtax of 0.5 percent, starting in 2013, on income in excess of $1 million.
     
  3. JD88

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    That's cause just cause DADT was repealed, they are not comfortable with coming out.

    Maybe in the Navy, but not in the Marine Corps. Call it what you want but it would take a brave man to come out in a grunt platoon.
     
  4. dandorotik

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    Well, it's good that the Obama haters posting on here don't lack reading comprehension skills. Typical conservatives- react first, then think- well, maybe sometimes just react, then evade rather than retract. Ho hum.
     
  5. IzakDavid13

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    I think it was quite an accomplishment for someone to ignore the racial bias and become the first black president of the USA. It might mean anything to you, but around the world we saw it as a big thing.

    The other two...adjust your sarcasm meter.
     
  6. bigtexxx

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    no one can argue with Obama's failure on improving unemployment and underemployment
     
  7. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Nobody.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/21/us...meal.html?_r=0

    WASHINGTON — For the second time in 10 days, the Senate on Thursday rejected Democratic efforts to take up a jobs bill championed by President Obama.

    The vote to advance the bill was 50 to 50. Democrats needed 60 votes to overcome a Republican filibuster.
    This time, the bill was narrowed to provide $35 billion to state and local governments to prevent layoffs of teachers, police officers and firefighters. To offset the cost, the bill would impose a surtax of 0.5 percent, starting in 2013, on income in excess of $1 million.
     
  8. mc mark

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    just in case texxx didn't see it the first time.

     
  9. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

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    too little too late, and he tries to lob a tax increase in?

    laughable attempt

    we need serious hard work, including across the aisle work from Obama. He prefers to play 18 holes...
     
  10. mc mark

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    Was it a little too late?

    Or another chance for republicans to filibuster and deny the country relief?

    We all know the republicans #1 priority was to make Obama a one term president. Not do what is right for the country.
     
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    I can't tell if you intended to be ironic or are merely oblivious. Congress makes laws, as per the Constitution, but Obama publicly championed and signed into law both the ARRA and healthcare reform. Obama prioritized and resourced the hunt for OBL, chose the highest risk/reward plan, and gave the go-ahead. Not sure what part of that you see as being 'out of his control'

    But that's not even the best part. You want us to ignore his most important accomplishments because he didn't do them entirely by himself, and in the very same breath you complain that he didn't prioritize jobs? What, exactly, are the Constitutionally-enumerated powers he has to make more jobs happen? You seem to think we have a monarch and not a President.
     
  12. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

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    sigh. The "Oblamer defense".

    Obama didn't work hard enough to work across the aisle. Instead he just pointed the finger at them and cast blame. That's no way to lead, and our nation suffered because of his leadership laziness.
     
  13. mc mark

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    missed this

    Nice post Bats
     
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    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Not too little too late for the teachers and firefighters that could have kept their jobs. Thanks, Republicans.
     
  16. dandorotik

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    Oh, I can argue with it. Absolutely. Let's see, having worked in the careers industry for 12 years and having studied the unemployment rate extensively, going all the way back to the 180ss, including breakdowns by state, city, gender, race, etc. (when they were available)- yes, I'm going to state with confidence that I know more about this than the average person.

    If you're looking at the past 8 presidential tenures, going back to Reagan 1, here is how they rank in terms of the UE increase/decrease under their watch:

    1. Reagan 2
    2. Clinton 2
    3. Clinton 1
    4. Obama 1
    5. W Bush 1
    6. Reagan 1
    7. W Bush 2
    8. HW Bush 1

    In the case of the first 4, the UE decreased from their first full month in office (February) to August of their 4th year (you have to use that criteria due to where Obama is- for a fair comparison, of course). For the latter 4, the UE went up.

    So, the question you have to ask yourself is: if Obama's record is failure regarding UE, what word do we use for the other 4? Reagan was "horrible"? W Bush was "disgusting"? HW Bush was "criminal"?

    You know, Texxx and all you other Obama haters, it's perfectly OK to say you don't prefer Obama due to ____________ without bringing in the distortions and general hatred. On unemployment, if you consider a .2% gain in the UE as a failure, what would be success?
     
  17. bigtexxx

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    Son, have you ever heard of the labor participation rate? It's at a 30 year low. Those are pitiful results. I don't care if you've sliced data before -- that's not compelling. Nor is that fact that you review people's resumes. 8% unemployment and an atrocious labor participation rate are a national disgrace.
     
  18. dandorotik

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    First of all, I think referring to a 45 year-old man as "son" is a little weird, don't cha think?? Second, yes, the labor rate is at a 30-year low. That is not good. Neither is 8% unemployment. Now, are you going to put that on Obama? Because if you do, you're really ignorant about the way the U.S.- and the world works. Please tell me that you're NOT that ignorant. Please tell me that you have at least a modicum of understanding about what has happened over the past 6 years. Please assure me that you're not assigning responsibility to 8% unemployment to Obama's policies. Because if you are, you are either truly unaware- glaringly so- about the way an economy works- or you're purposefully being ignorant because your head is so far up the conservative ideological a** that you can't see past the s**t you're thus surrounded by- and yes, your s**t does stink- loud and clear.

    Oh, and nice job of responding to my question- it's to be expected from you.

    I'm assuming it's the former, boy, so I'll cut you some slack. But please do take some Macroeconomics courses or studies. You'll learn that there's a whole big blue world out there beyond 1600 Penn. Ave. If you'd like, I'd be glad to recommend you to some non-partisan sources. Maybe then you'll actually contribute something that isn't a vomiting of the same old "Obama is evil/horrible" mantra.
     
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  19. GladiatoRowdy

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    No one with a brain argues that it hasn't gotten better than when he took office.
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    labor participation rate lowest in 30 years

    not better
     

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