Glad you think some old hippies can come up with a thought or two, on occasion, that's worthy. The extent of the "threat" from Saddam was always grossly exaggerated by the Bush Gang, both to the American people (along with the world), and to the Congress. If anyone checked my posts from back then, I was not opposed to "doing something about Saddam" at some point in the future, but opposed to even considering it until we had al-Qaida and it's leadership destroyed, the Taliban destroyed as an effective threat to Afghanistan and the region, given their proven support of bin Laden and al-Qaida, and Afghanistan stable and well on it's way to prosperity. Instead of doing that, the Fool in the Oval Office, basso's hero, pulled resources out of the fight against al-Qaida and bin Laden, an act that is still stunning for me to contemplate, given it's incredible, reckless stupidity, and unimaginable harm to our national interests. Bush pulled our forces away from the fight against those who were responsible of 9/11, and dumped them into a country that had nothing to do with it, and was no threat in the near future to the United States or our allies. The incompetence and stupidity of that act is breathtaking. Our standing in the world is at a nadir, after being so high after the end of the Cold War. Our support from the rest of the world is at a nadir, after being so high after 9/11. The Mid-East is in ever increasing chaos, a danger to the US, our allies, and the world. Iran, who never, in my opinion, would have been so bold in it's actions, had Bush not squandered our military might in Iraq, and made us look weak, continues to suppress it's own people, as it grows in influence in the region, thumbing it's nose at the States, while drawing ever closer to Russia and Putin. And Bush gets kudos from basso and company for producing that?? Incredible. D&D. Impeach Buish and Cheney.
the quote of the kerfuffle, thus far: [rquoter]Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois... said recently he would be willing to meet with the leaders of Cuba, North Korea and Iran in his first year in office, and declared in a speech he would order military action to capture terrorists in Pakistan if that nation's president did not. "I mean, in one week he went from saying he's going to sit down, you know, for tea, with our enemies, but then he's going to bomb our allies," said Romney. "I mean, he's gone from Jane Fonda to Dr. Strangelove in one week."[/rquoter] http://althouse.blogspot.com/2007/08/hes-gone-from-jane-fonda-to-dr.html and Romney's gone up in my estimation
Balack has certainly help our relationship with the pakistanis: Pakistani protesters burn a U.S. flag to condemn U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama's remarks, Friday, Aug. 3, 2007, in Karachi, Pakistan. Pakistan criticized Obama for saying that, if elected, he might order unilateral military strikes inside this Islamic nation to root out terrorists. (AP Photo/Shakil Adil)
and W has called M to allay their fears: http://www.dawn.com/2007/08/04/top8.htm [rquoter]Washington move to allay Pakistan’s concerns By Qudssia Akhlaque ISLAMABAD, Aug 3: US President George W. Bush telephoned President Gen Pervez Musharraf on Friday afternoon in what was seen as a move to allay Pakistan’s concerns about the new Congress bill, the possibility of American military action inside the country’s tribal region and the Indo-US civil nuclear technology deal. A statement issued by the Foreign Office said: “At his initiative, President Bush spoke to President Musharraf over telephone this afternoon.” Although Pakistan’s Independence Day falls on August 14, the statement said: “President Bush stated that the primary purpose of his telephone call was to congratulate the president and the people of Pakistan on the 60th independence anniversary.” According to the Foreign Office statement, when President Musharraf raised the issue of the US legislation and expressed concern over elements that reflected negatively on the Pakistan-US bilateral cooperation and relations, President Bush told him that he did not anticipate any adverse impact.“The US president explained the background of the bill expressing the view that he did not foresee adverse impact of any of the Pakistan-specific provisions on the existing cooperation which was in the mutual interest of the two countries,” it said. In this context he mentioned that the US Congress had recently approved funds close to $150 million for Fata development for this year, which according to him, was another indication of the strong commitment on the part of the US to support Pakistan. With reference to the recent statements emanating from Washington regarding possible American action inside Pakistani territory in pursuit of Al Qaeda, President Bush agreed that such statements did not serve the interests of either country and held out the assurance that the US fully respected Pakistan’s sovereignty. He conceded that such statements were unsavoury and often prompted by political considerations in an environment of electioneering. “President Bush stated that the United States fully respected Pakistan’s sovereignty and appreciated Pakistan’s resolve in fighting Al Qaeda and other terrorist elements,” the statement noted. He reaffirmed the US desire to build a strong, long-term strategic relationship with Pakistan as it served the interest of both the countries and the world. The statement said: “President Bush also praised the role that Pakistan and President Musharraf have been playing for peace and security in the region and appreciated the courage and sacrifices especially of the Pakistan armed forces in fighting terrorism.”[/rquoter]
basso, another Iraq supporter who opposes going after the terrorists responsible for 9/11. Way to make a stand basso, and show us that you really are tough on terrorists.
Our relationship with Pakistan was nothing to brag about. Musharraf is allowing OBL and AL-Qaeda leaders to reside, operate terrorist training camps, and plan more terrorist attacks inside his borders. I hope that can be salvaged. Question(remember you still have a couple of others you have been running from): Do you believe the U.S. should make nice appease dictators?
Rudy Giuliani supported obama's plan yesterday in the debate that aired on abc. there was another candidate also but I don't remember. giuliani stated that obama may have been able to communicate the plan better, but he essentially agreed.
Here's another... "I am getting tired of people are holier than thou because they’ve been pro-life longer than I have." -- Mitt Romney
basso falls in love with these sublime hypocrites. Good company for him. Impeach Dildo and His Homie.
Yet again you prove your inability to comprehend the written word. Obama said that if we have "actionable intelligence" abort terrorist targets in Pakistan, that we world at even if Musharef would not. That is not the equivalent of invading the country, it is acting on intelligence, which can be done covertly. Bush and his cronies (including you) don't understand this, but Obama does.
Duh, that's the difference between a rookie and a veteran. Of course you keep all your options open, but you don't publicly boast that you might unilaterally take military action in a country where the stability is already fragile. This is like diplomacy 101. But Obama is a smart guy, I am sure he will correct his rookie mistakes, or Hillary will do it for him.
Are you freaking kidding me? Romney was a successful CEO in the private sector which generated real jobs and tax dollars, managed Salt Lake Olympics. As the governor, balanced the budget without raising my taxes, started the program where everyone in Massachusetts would be covered by health insurance. Yeah, like I said 100 times more REAL accomplishments.
The only reason Obama is in his Senate seat is because of Jack Ryan's ridiculous sexcapades. Prior to that, what had he done (other than lose a race to a former Black Panther)? The guy is a media creation with no accomplishments. The fact that he has already damaged foreign relations a year prior to the friggin election is simply astounding.
I really don't understand how a bush supporter can make this argument with a straight face. really, its beyond hypocritical, its delusional
