The Military in general has always been republican, u can research it ureself... the U.S. Military will not vote for Mr.Obama, mark those words, im not saying every single us servicemen will vote for mccain... but i would say 75-80% of the Military will vote republican this november... a Marine Unit at Ocean Side, California "Fox Company" did a mock vote on who they would vote for if it's McCain VS Obama... results : McCain: 403 Marines Voted / Obama: 39 Marines Voted "The Military is extremely offended by someone who wants to be our Commander In Chief but yet says our "missile system is unproven" and would cut fundings for its improvements. At a time where China and Iran is making technological gains on missile systems, we just cannot have it. That comment is pretty much a slap to every single American Servicemen" -Alpha Company Commander Captain. Walter D. Troy USMC
us_marine, thanks for clarifying who the military supports. We have people on here (FrenchieBlade) who insist the military supports Obama. Just goes to show how out of touch some people are with reality.
So you'd suspect that the army has a much different opinion than the marines.....or would you suspect that us_marine is not in touch with members of the other branches of the military. weak post on your part. The liberals have been dealt a crushing blow to their credibility. Crushing.
Obama did respond to froming an oversight committee or something to the effect. He said he was campaining. I just want to throw that out there, it may be a legit excuse, it may not be. But no one took it any further. He has only been in that position since a year I believe.
If you served in the Armed Forces of the United States, you would know that (US ARMY/US AIRFORCE/US NAVY/US MARINES) ^ United States Military Which means they are all the same, same thoughts, same ideas, same backgrounds, same kind of people, willing to sacrifice their own lives so that people may live and for people to have the right to protest us. by the way, the U.S. Missile Defense System that Mr.Obama calls a "unproven" was a joint Army/Airforce/Marines/Navy research... The Missile was fired from a US Navy Ship controlled by a Marine Triggerman, missile was controlled by NORAD US Army Tracker, and was monitored by the Airforce in the air. A few moments later missile hits target. Obama then says Missile System is unproven and will cut money for it's developement > Slap to the Army Airforce Navy and Marines. If Obama was President the missile wouldnt have existed and that satelite would have landed somewhere in the world causing alot of death and injuries...
Yes, I would expect human beings to not all share the same opinion - is that not rational? I have no idea how much us_marine is in touch with other branches of the military - do you know? All he's said is the entire US military will not vote for Obama, and then cited some random marine camp in California as evidence. I need a little more proof than that, especially considering the fund raising numbers. But I guess I'm arguing with someone who believes a guy on youtube claiming Obama did crack and got serviced in the back of a limousine. I would say you have lost your credibility, but you've had none to lose. PS: Not everyone who disagrees with you is "liberal" Funny, because my brother-in-law is a marine and doesn't share your viewpoint. I guess he's the one outsider, huh? Or should I say one of the 39. Which would mean that they don't all have the "same thoughts, same ideas, same backgrounds, same kind of people", wouldn't it?
Interesting coherence between the hooligans and the presumed brave innocent. I wasn't going to post anything serious with the bobsy twins activated, but... I do not know usmarine007, but like everyone else, I'll take him at his word. What I know flesh and blood is my father, a Korean vet. He drives a shuttle van (purely volunteer) in East Texas for disabled and impoverished vets of WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq. He spends a lot of time every week taking vets to their medical appointments, and these guys would have no other way to get there. I am very proud of my dad. So, after 30+ years of never voting for a democrat, he just voted absentee for Obama. Why? He's pretty pissed at how the Republicans have handled the military, ignoring, over and over, military advice, and then crapping on veterans by cutting their meager benefits. As for the missile defense system? After Korea, my Dad was literally a NASA rocket scientist. I'm proud of that too. The other thing he and I agree on is that the missile defense program is a giagantic, unscientific boondoggle. If Obama calls it like the data indicate it ("unproven" is putting is kindly), then God bless him for his straight talk. That system has failed more tests than it has passed, and it has not yet hit a realistic self-guided target, to the best of my knowledge. In the meantime, it makes me really angry to see what vets go through, waiting for a pathetic volunteer van to take them to the doctor, where their coverage won't give them what they need, while we spent billions after billions to the defense contractor fantasy of missile defense. That's not offense to the military. Far from. I mean offense to the freaking defense contractors who continue to rape our budget blind. The military was not getting those billions. Lame-ass, no accountability contractors were getting filthy rich on it.
The Military in general has always been republican, u can research it ureself... the U.S. Military will not vote for Mr.Obama, mark those words, im not saying every single us servicemen will vote for mccain... but i would say 75-80% of the Military will vote republican this november... a Marine Unit at Ocean Side, California "Fox Company" did a mock vote on who they would vote for if it's McCain VS Obama... results : McCain: 403 Marines Voted / Obama: 39 Marines Voted
I'm sorry, but without specifics, this just doesn't carry much weight with me. I am personally friends with high ranking executives at companies that provide contracting services in Iraq. If you knew these people, and how HARD they work every day to put forth an honest effort to deliver quality goods and services to the Americans putting their lives on the line in Iraq, you'd be stunned. These are real people we are talking about here -- not just some evil monolithic corporate entity looking to screw people. These people operate with strict corporate controls, strict cost controls, open and honest corporate governance, and with the utmost integrity. Unless you have hard data to dispute that, I will not agree with you, Bob.
Not debatable an al-Qaeda affiliate was present in a kurdish area where saddam had no control thanks to our no fly zones No sane people are doing this. In years past it would be pretty normal for the military to vote overwhelmingly republican. After speaking to a few active military people I am convinced its going to be different this year. BTW, didn't you say in another thread you were an undecided voter?
hey LongTimeFan, i checked on what u said about the "donations," thats pretty intresting to me! and in some polls that ive seen... my 80-75% vote for mccain was wrong, ive seen 6 military polls with mccain leading each 45/43/49/51/45/44 so Obama seems to be getting support from some members of the military according to the press... so hmm intresting.. for me, my friends in the marines, and other branches, i would say 80% of them has told me that they would vote for mccain... i did have other friends telling me they would vote clinton or obama... so i guess... we will actually find out who is right during election night... hope there is no hard feelings between us? thats not my intentions! im just saying what ive seen and what ive heard while living this military lifestyle, and living with marines and sailors. hope were cool!
yeah i was really undecided... until i heard what Mr.Obama said about our military... but i mean if he is elected, then its alright, i will serve him just as how i served this current President.... thats the good thing about our government, there is always "checks and balances." so even with not much experience in times of war... im sure the senate and congress will help him.. and if he is elected, like i said i will support him cuz he would be my new commander in chief. But as for who i want to be in office, I'll vote McCain... although, its still a long time from now till november... ill have to hear McCain and Obama debate first to make my decision official... but for now, im voting for McCain... but again, that could change...
You base this on what? The military thought Bush was going to be a great commander in chief and 130,000+ troops have been fighting a virtual roll call of enemies in Iraq without proper training and equipment because of him. McCain being a POW, while a testament to his personal courage, doesn't qualify him for Commander in Chief anymore than being a great mechanic qualifies you to run General Motors. McCain voted for the war. McCain railed again and again against torture and then he voted for torture last week when his party hammered him on it. McCain wants a 100 year occupation of Iraq. Dude is insane.
by the way, if you guys are wondering, i am not a conservative! although i tend to lean that way usually... i call myself moderate.... just like Collin Powell
hey CometsWin! McCain has Medals like i do... you dont get them by telling stories... I dont think McCain said he will occupy Iraq for 100 years.... i think what he meant is that we are going to have a presence there for 100 years and even more!! So what if we do? Do you realize that every single nation that fought against the United States has American Troops on their soil right now? like i said before, The United States fought the Spanish/American War in the Philippines in the 1900's.... it's 2008 right now... and we still have American Troops in there... We fought Japan, 1945... it's 2008 now, were still there... Cuba... were still there after.. Germany... Korea.... France.... Mexico.... we are still there...
I consider McCain a legitimate war hero and wouldn't ever question his courage or his service, I just don't think that his experiences qualify him for Commander in Chief. You say presence, Muslims will say occupation. Vietnam doesn't have any US troops on its soil and this war is much more like Vietnam than it is WWII or Korea.
