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Obama says PA voters are bitter

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ymc, Apr 11, 2008.

  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    What's even more HILARIOUS is that all of those red-state democratic primary voters were duped into thinking that Obama actually cared about them. Now that they know the truth, I wonder if they want their vote back? Superdelegates may be interested in that answer...

    the audacious know-nothing low-level management trainee resume is starting to wilt... President McCain is just on another, higher level than either Obama or Clinton. Given the perception that this is a horrible time for a Republican to win, it's truly reflective of how horrible a candidate that Obama is that he can't outpoll any Republican in this environment. The libs are in very very bad shape here, folks. Obama's bloom is off. This particular piss-on-small-town America issue is going to devastate Bigot Obama.
     
  2. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Dude, they are both admitted Clinton followers. I'm just saying: they have each enjoyed opportunities to bring him down a notch previously.

    Also, I feel I told it like it is. What he said was ill-advised, and he was playing to his local audience, believe me, in SF.

    It is also stupid for this nation to continue to base 98% of their political conversations on 0.002% of the relevant content spoken, done, and envisioned by the candidates. The media will do the same damn thing with McCain (Sunni/Shiite tape loop anyone?), and it does us all a disservice.

    If this country keeps making decisions based on soundbites, or soundbites from people who rotate the candidates' tires, we're going to keep getting the absolutely CRAPPY government we richly deserve for our idiocy. I am very BITTER about the leadership of this nation.

    Spin? whatever. yeah, let's keep talking about the worst sentences spoken by each candidate. you go, geniuses. let basso delight and sing nursery rhymes, but know the thick irony, as the wheels are definitely coming off folks. The wheels are coming off something larger and more important than the Obama campaign.
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    Wow. I missed that. You've got to be kidding me. Obama is a r****d when it comes to the economy
     
  4. mc mark

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    I think McCain and republicans should be more concerned that a "know-nothing low-level management trainee" with no experience is raising more money, registering more voters, exciting more Americans than Hillary and McCain combined.
     
  5. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Your brother is offended by your use of that term, or he should be, if some of his community service claims are factual.
     
  6. glynch

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    BTW can somebody point out where McCain worked in the private sector, made a profit, met a payroll ad all of that. Wikipedia shows he retired from the Navy in 1981 and was in Congress in 1982.

    Obama at least worked for private law firms and a private university.

    TJ might knock Obama for being a mere lawyer and not an MBA, but McCain has what degree and absolutely no private experience. McCain has admitted to not knowing much about the economy.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    McCain wanted BSC to collapse, this is a goal you are in favor of?
     
  8. ROCKET RICH NYC

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    Obama doesn’t even understand that tax increases in the midst of a recession are a recipe for disaster (Econ 101-102). In one of the debates, it was evident that he doesn’t even understand the difference between the Fed Funds Rate and the Discount Rate.
     
  9. Major

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    Umm, given that his primary proposed tax "increase" (letting some of Bush's "temporary" cuts expire) would take effect in 2011, unless you think we're going to be in a 3 year long recession, he's not really proposing what you think he is. And new additional legislation wouldn't take effect until 2010.

    Coming from someone who thinks there was some big federal bailout of Bear Stearns, this is amusing. How much do you think the BSC "bailout" is costing the federal government?
     
  10. SamFisher

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    You're the same guy who just said that "mortgage companies" like Bear Stearns & Co. should be allowed to collapse - you don't have a lot of room to talk about being uninformed, my fine feathered friend.
     
  11. ROCKET RICH NYC

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    I never said it was a big federal bailout. I just said when is it the government's duty to help companies when they make bad business decisions. Big difference.
     
  12. ROCKET RICH NYC

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    We live in a capitalist society/economy. Bottom line is in order for one company to succeed another one must fail. The notion that one company like Bear Stearns would be a domino affect on the rest of the companies is to me fear-mongering. It's all speculation. Nobody knows for certain what would happen. Once again, libs spreading fear.
     
  13. Refman

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    False. I am a moderate Republican. I plan to vote for McCain. I am certainly not a "lib." What you have said above is just plain wrong.

    You have already had Bear Stearns and Countrywide need a white knight at a depressed price. Any organization that is heavily invested in subprime mortgages is in serious jeopardy.

    If it takes the government guaranteeing loans (no actual money going out the treasury door) for a buyout of these companies by another organization in order to keep the wheels from falling off the economy, the so freaking be it.
     
  14. SamFisher

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    Yes I'm certain other "mortgage companies" would arise in the wake of Bear Stearns collapse - and sure it's just tree-hugging liberals who support big "mortgage companies" like BSC MER LEH GS JPM CSGN@VX UBS@VX - bastions of left wing activism, all.....
     
  15. ROCKET RICH NYC

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    Nobody knows WHAT Obama plans on proposing. All a bunch of lip-service to make us "feel good". He has no experience or track record for the American people to back up his economic policies.
     
  16. B-Bob

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    This is a great response to people from all parts of the political spectrum bombarding you with substance. Ceasing your posting in this thread would be a more dignified option.
     
  17. ROCKET RICH NYC

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    So I guess the government can guarantee all of our loans too then.
     
  18. Refman

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    In order for Obama to raise taxes prior to 2011 would require an act of Congress as well. It isn't like he wouldn't have a lot of help.
     
  19. ROCKET RICH NYC

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    You mean the Democrat-led congress that is foaming at the mouth of raising taxes.
     
  20. Refman

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    You mean the same ones who hope to be re-elected the next election?

    Just because you say you are ok with a tax hike does not mean that you are going to do it the very nanosecond you have the chance.

    The timing of a tax hike is important. I don't want a tax hike anymore than you do. I think we made a tax hike inevitable when we entered into a prolonged conflict in Iraq.
     

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