did anyone see hillary at the bar in PA doing shots of crown royals? she's such a woman of the people. I couldn't believe she was taking it to that level. the one thing I hate about this is I really thought obama had a chance to close it out in PA by narrowing the lead sigficantly. well, its still a week till 4/22.
I'm just surprised Hillary isn't getting more grief about her "voters need a pat on the back not a pat on the head" comment. I thought it made her look worse than Obama.
Great post. I would only say that our current state of politics reminds me more of Roman politics from around 60 BC, when it was still a Republic. People got elected by borrowing outrageous amounts and having to do favors for their friends after the election to repay those debts. Of course, I hope we do not have to resort to having an emperor (or First Citizen) to fix our political process.
is rasmussen flawed too? http://rasmussenreports.com/public_.../pennsylvania_democratic_presidential_primary [rquoter] Pennsylvania Democratic Presidential Primary Pennsylvania: Clinton 50% Obama 41% Tuesday, April 15, 2008 Advertisment With a week to go until Pennsylvania voters render their final verdict, Hillary Clinton has opened a nine-percentage point lead over Barack Obama in the Keystone State. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey shows Clinton now attracts 50% of the vote while Obama earns 41%. That’s a slight improvement for Clinton who led by five percentage points a week ago. Among voters from households where someone owns a gun, Clinton leads by seventeen points. Voters from other households are more evenly divided. Clinton leads among voters who say faith and religion are Somewhat or Very Important. Obama leads among those who say such topics are Not Very Important or Not at All Important. Sixty percent (60%) of Likely Democratic Primary voters in Pennsylvania say that it is Very Important for the government to enforce the borders and reduce illegal immigration. Among these voters, Clinton leads by sixteen. Looking at the other aspect of the immigration debate, 30% say it’s Very Important to legalize the status of those who have come to the country illegally. Among these voters, Clinton and Obama are essentially even. Twenty-three percent (23%) of Likely Primary Voters rate their personal finances as poor. Among these voters, the candidates are even—Obama wins 46% of their votes, Clinton 44%. Nationally, 56% of all voters disagree with controversial statements made by Barack Obama on why cling to religion, guns, and “anti-immigrant” attitudes. In Pennsylvania, 75% of Likely Primary Voters have heard of the remarks. Thirty-five percent (35%) agree and 51% disagree. Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Obama supporters agree with the comments while 25% disagree. Among Clinton supporters, 73% disagree. Thirty-seven percent (37%) say that the comments reflect an elitist view of small town America. Forty-eight percent (48%) disagree. Most Clinton voters (57%) believe Obama’s comments reflect an elitist view while Obama voters overwhelmingly reject that notion. In the Keystone State, Clinton is now viewed favorably by 74% of Likely Democratic Primary Voters, Obama by 72%. Those figures are little changed from a week ago. Clinton leads by twenty-seven points among White Voters while Obama attracts 78% of the African-American vote. A separate survey found that both Democrats lead McCain in Pennsylvania. Nationally, McCain currently leads both Democrats in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll. Looking at the Electoral College, the race is essentially a Toss-Up. [/rquoter]
It isn't as flawed. They are all flawed to an extent. A 9% lead is not a 20 % lead. A 4% increase in one state isn't huge, and not in a state where Obama was never expected to win in the first place.
Even with a net win of 15% Hillary will only gain about 3 pledged delegates. It would have to be a landslide of epic proportions (along the lines of 80 – 20) for her to make any significant dent in Obama’s lead. And even then she still wouldn't catch him.
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Here are two flaws which invalidate your analysis: 1) Democratic voters have already made up their mind. They are entrenched. Obama could murder two people tomorrow and his base would still vote for him over Hillary. It's that bitter. 2) According to Scott Rasmussen, 55% of the voting public isn't even aware of this controversy. So we've got a long long way to go here. And you can bet the house that this is coming up in the General election. You have to keep in mind that most of the people who he insulted are either Republicans or Independents. Neither of those will be picked up in PA's closed primary polling...
At this stage Hillary is trying to win by getting the superdelegates to make up for the difference and over-ride the popular vote.
dude, I can't even get mad. this is so low key but we all know what you mean by picking this example. but carry on edit: and before you say its not, you've already made the comparison
rhester, thanks for chiming in. Have to disagree on one point. I would not vote for P Hilton or L Lohan for the POTUS. I think we poo-flinging monkeys here deserve a *tiny* bit of credit. McCain v Obama would be an interesting election, with two men I honestly respect, and if one of them got elected, it is not impossible that a start could be made on the budget, much like we started more sensible spending in the 1990's. (No, not enough, but the trend was a start at least.)
Woman Who Broke "Small Town" Story Says Obama Campaign's Response Was "Classy" By Greg Sargent - April 15, 2008, 6:06PM The woman who broke the Obama "small town" story for The Huffington Post may have come under relentless fire from some Obama supporters after the news broke, but she has one word to describe the response she's since received from the Obama campaign itself: "Classy." I just spoke briefly with the woman, Mayhill Fowler, and she said that though she created the worst and most sustained controversy for Obama since Jeremiah Wright's sermons surfaced, Obama campaign aides haven't directed any anger or punitive action in her direction. "They haven't denied me any kind of access," Fowler said. "From the time I started following them around last June, they have been a classy operation, and I still think they are. They haven't treated me any differently than before." Fowler rejected charges -- voiced in the blogosphere and elsewhere -- that she'd deliberately broken the story to harm Obama on Hillary's behalf. "There are still a lot of conspiracy theories out there, that I'm a Clinton campaign plant. None of that is true," she said, adding that covering the campaign was a great pleasure that consumes her "24-7." Fowler confirmed that a number of people shot the episode on their cellphones and at least one person filmed it with a video camera -- meaning that it's likely that video of the controversial comments themselves is still lurking out there. One final tidbit: Fowler rejected the idea that the people Obama made his guns and religion remarks to were rich. "I'm not sure that it's completely come out, but these were not really wealthy people." http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/woman_who_broke_small_town_sto.php Oops!
O'please. fowler is a self-professed O'bama acolyte, who never meant for this story to become what it did. had Huff not been posting from David Geffen's Tahitian berthed yacht, there would have been better internal oversight, and Pennsylvanians would never have known the utter disdain with which the true believers hold them. but then, that's how the billionaires roll, errr row...
I post stupid things like that all the time here Actually, I just have lost confidence in the current politics of both parties. Most people think the budget deficit is the same as the debt. That alone lets you know our political IQ. I like Obama's personality, he is the best politician running. He is a great speaker and he has a gift to inspire... he is the Joel Osteen of the race. I like Hillary's raw ambition, she is also the best politician running. She is calulating, strong and power hungry... she is the John Hagee of the race. I like McCain's savvy tactics, he is also the best politician running. He is shifty, a hero, a moderate, a conservative and a liberal... he is the Pat Robertson of the race. There you have it, Osteen, Hagee and Robertson. And the winner is....?
