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Obama regimes DOJ drops charges against the black panther thugs

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by OddsOn, Jul 8, 2010.

  1. SamFisher

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    That says that 341 people have the same name as people who were convicted felons.

    Even if we assume that it is impossible for two people to have the same name, I guess it would be too much to assume that you are aware that felons are not automatically barred from voting in Minnesota?

    Can you identify a single illegally cast vote?

    The answer is no. You can't.
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    Relying on Minnesota Majority's analysis would be like relying upon Code Pink to say that GW Bush didn't actually win 2004.

    You can speculate all you want but the recount was thoroughly handled with ever opportunity for Coleman to contest to a MN Supreme Court of mostly non Democrat, DFL for MN, appointees.

    [Edit] A followup. I just heard Ramsey county DA Phil Carruthers on the radio talking about the case. He said that it is impossible to know if this case had any affect on the outcome of the election and any view otherwise is pure speculation.
     
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  3. basso

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    my point wasn't really to go back and refight the MN senate race- it's over, franken was declared winner, i've moved on- but to demonstrate that not purging voter rolls can have an effect on an election. it's hard to understand why one wouldn't purge these voters from the rolls, but i suspect it's because these voters tend to support one particular party, and this willful disregard for the law is part of a pattern in the Obama/Holder DOJ.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    Why do you think legal voters should be purged from the registration lists?
     
  5. basso

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    why do you think additional entitlements lowers the level of overall entitlement spending?
     
  6. rocketsjudoka

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    As the DA noted though there is no way to know whether or not purging the voter roles favored one party or the other. Clearly your presumption, as MN Majority, is that felons are urban minorities and would vote DFL, leaving aside the inherent racism of that view, there is no proof regarding how they voted and in a state like MN it would also be a mistake to presume that most felons are minorities from urban areas.

    Also in regard to the Obama /Holder DOJ did you see the article that pointed out that the case against the Black Panthers was dropped before Obama or Holder were in office?

    All you are left with is raw speculation that this had an effect on the election.
     
  7. basso

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    my assumption is that felons would vote for the democratic candidate. Franken is white, as was his opponent.

    If anyone is making race-based assumptions now, it is Holder (and perhaps you?)
     
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    We disagree...

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  9. rocketsjudoka

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    First off MN Majority focussed their study on the Twin Cities, the one major urban area of MN and the one where there are the most minorities. Why then would they conclude that would lead to a Franken victory?

    Are you agreeing with their analysis and what do you base the assumption that felons would vote for a Democractic candidate on?

    Also where did Holder make a race based assumption in regard to what MN Majority is saying?
     
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    That dude in the video is scum, but what does this have to do with Obama?
     
  11. basso

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    as i said above, i was making a general statement about a pattern of race-based decisions in the Obama DOJ. i was not making a specific point about MN in that regard, citing it as an example where allowing felons who should have been purged from the roles to vote, could affect the outcome. don't draw any further inference.

    back OT, this is just fun to watch, not least because of the particular pulchritude of the participants:

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    I'm late to the game, but if gay is the new black, what does that make the New Black Panther Party?
     
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  14. rocketsjudoka

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    Except Obama's DOJ had nothing to do with the MN case so why even bring it up and conflate it with Obama and Holder?
     
  15. basso

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    because of the continued contention that illegal voters don't affect elections, and because the Obama DOJ is refusing to purge the rolls elsewhere.
     
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    Except the DA in the MN case has said that it is impossible to know if there was any affect and anyway as I noted earlier MN Majority's case is focussed on a limited section of the MN electorate. In fact yesterday Norm Coleman addressed the issue by stating he has no plans to pursue anymore legal challenges and this case doesn't change anything.

    Also the original topic is about the New Black Panthers and not purging voter rolls. As noted earlier it turns out the GW Bush DOJ dropped the case before Obama was even in office.
     
  17. mc mark

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    why let the facts get in the way of a good Obama bashing?
     
  18. basso

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    i said in my origianl post that it wouldn't change anything, and the article says the same thing. i don't understand why you continue to try to infer something i've repeatedly said i wasn't trying to imply.
     
  19. basso

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    they dropped a criminal case, but proceeded with a civil case, and won a default judgement. after holder came on board, in May 2009, most of the suit was dropped, and the rest was cut back.
     
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