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Obama Press Conference 11-3-10

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Nov 3, 2010.

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  1. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    I almost wish he'd postponed the press conference, rather than give the one he gave today. The President came across as disspirited, beaten. Sure, he had plenty of reasons to feel that way, but I would have preferred a better performance today. He needed one.


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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    The way businesses expand is when there is a need to do so, and their current businesses are operating at maximum capacity.

    The only way to do that is to increase consumer spending. A targeted stimulus is the best way to increase consumer spending.
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    He's been broken - yesterday was proof positive that he's failed during his first two years in office. The American people told him that loud and clear.
     
  4. RedRedemption

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    Everyone needs to understand we're not getting a FIX IT QUICK president. Any and all things done to improve the state of the nation won't come into effect until after they complete their terms.

    The last thing the US should do now is panic, but it seems like the majority of the population is panicking and looking for a miracle worker.
     
  5. Rocketman1981

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    You're painting with a broad brush sir.

    Banking, Finance and Energy are two of the largest employers and industries making up a third of the S&P 500 index. His broad, general comments didn't single out leveraged proprietary trading but 'bankers' and 'big oil' not just BP and their spill.

    I wonder why the Chamber of 'COMMERCE' would be against a president unless their membership of BUSINESS OWNERS would be against their policies. His allegations of foreign donors and all was ridiculous.

    "You don't know," Obama said at the rally for Senate candidate Joe Sestak and other Democrats. "It could be the oil industry. It could even be foreign-owned corporations. You don't know because they don't have to disclose."

    Sounds friendly to Oil, Banking, Insurance and the other EMPLOYERS in this country.
     
  6. DonkeyMagic

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    isnt that exactly how obama got elected?
     
  7. bigtexxx

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    lol did ya see Obamacare? complete crap

    It's one thing to have a long term fix, but the people don't believe in Obama's plans for that. They don't have FAITH that Obama has the answers.

    it's easy to say, "just wait".....but solving problems is tough, and the people are not confident Obama can do it.
     
  8. Rocketman1981

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    Stimulus is fine, but it has a pixie stick effect as its not sustainable. We should provide relief to business owners so they don't have to let people go which will help the unemployment rates.

    People would rather have jobs, then $500 stimulus checks.
     
  9. Space Ghost

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    You're using a subjection as a fact. First off, it was congress (regardless of party...both are guilty) that allowed the banks to inflate the real estate market. I don't believe there was a second great depression looming. I believe Obamas agenda hurt the economy more than anything. I believe as a country, we would be in a MUCH MUCH better circumstance had Hilary beat both Obama and McCain and the republicans controlling one part of Congress.
     
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    I thought most people in the nation were employed by small businesses. Obama has been very generous with them.

    The Chamber of Commerce comments weren't inaccurate because of the of the foreign money they do receive. He's right that they don't disclose their donors.
     
  11. pgabriel

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    talking about painting a broad brush, "business owners every where are against him" follow your own advice.

    your the broad brush king of this forum
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, that's the idea. Nobody believe stimulus should be never ending. People do believe it should be long enough to help with a remedy, and targeted to increase consumer spending. If that is done, then businesses need not let people go.
     
  13. pgabriel

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    the president gave a fine honest performance, he was beaten and he stood his ground
     
  14. mc mark

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    I hope Obama Fails
    Healthcare will be his Waterloo

    You guys are something else

    And no the American people have not told Obama that he's failed, they told congress that they've failed.
     
  15. Space Ghost

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    You're right, he's not a Fix It Quick president. He's "jam everything through Congress while he has control" president. Jam it now, and we will fix it later.

    Health Care bill is a prime example. I will agree, the Republicans never bought substance to the table. Health Care will require a massive overhaul, and to be frank, I believe the government will need to run it. Its not how I want it, but the current private health care insurance company model is not going to work long term. Nobody wants to dismantel that giant out of fear. What Obama did was bring the worst of both sides and passed it. He left out a government option and gave everything to the private insurance companies.
     
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    QOTD:

    "I think people started looking at all this, and it felt as if government was getting much more intrusive into people's lives than they were accustomed to."

    ya think?
     
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    pgabriel, I'm a big fan of the President, but in my opinion, that wasn't a "fine performance." I agree on the honest part. Look, Obama would be the last person to say he doesn't bear a lot of the responsibility for this fiasco. The man needs to lead with passion, as well as his towering intellectual ability. This would have been a good place to start. He passed on the opportunity. I'm not overly concerned. He'll have plenty of other chances. I'll be waiting.
     
  18. tallanvor

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    If i recall for both the health care and stimulus Obama said things along the line of 'we have to fix this now. The time for talk is over'. His stimulus was meant to be a quick fix, and it made things much worse in the eyes of most Americans. The mental gymnastics liberals are doing today is incredible and enjoyable:

    Obama: Election was referendum on the economy, not on his policies...

    Chuck Todd: Was this election a referendum on Pelosi or Obama? if it was about Obama, wouldn't GOP be winning more SEN seats? Pelosi was issue in House

    People on this board: The health care plan contained Republican ideas because Mitt Romney(who isn't in the federal government) passed something similar in Massachusetts.
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I think it's good for people to see him humble, but I agree that he didn't use this opportunity to lay a ground work for the future and lead.

    To be honest, I think he's licking his wounds. Fine, give the man a day. But not more than that.

    I hope he can rally the country, not with rhetoric but with as you say, real, human passion that underscores what the middle class is feeling.

    Health Care was a mistake because while it benefits the middle class, it's not what really concerned them. They were worried about jobs and the deficit, and he instead tackled a problem that HE thought was important.

    That was his huge mistake.

    He can correct it by focusing on reducing the deficit. We all know that there isn't much he can do about jobs but I think he can try to fix the deficit.
     
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    I've also come to believe that the country would be much better off if Hilary had beaten Obama, but for an entirely different reason. If Hilary had been the nominee for the Dems, Palin would have never been brought into the national spotlight.
     

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