Well once again some people end up with egg on their face. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/01/21/obama-closing-gitmo-year/ More evidence of the real change that some people will try and pretend isn't happening.
Speaking of Gitmo, does anyone remember the Maher Arar incident? He was the Canadian who was effectively kidnapped by US authorities and sent to Syria to be tortured. In the last few days more information has come out about it from a trial of a Canadian who is being held at Guantanamo. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...Story/International/home?cid=al_gam_mostemail
I'm sorry, but is that one story about torture of the supposed next hijacker? And we're supposed to feel sorry for him? He was trying to kill a bunch of innocent people. He doesn't deserve the same constitutional rights as Americans do. I think some of you lose sight of this.
And why is closing Gitmo the first thing Obama is working on. Are we not in a recession or something like that? I think I've heard about on the news or something about a lot people(Americans) losing their jobs and homes and we are worried about the well being of Terrorist? I'm not saying to not clean up the act some, but at the top of the list?
No, what some people lost sight of is that no human deserves torture. Period. And the point is we can allege that you are the next hijacker. Due process should be our example to the world. We prosecuted axis leaders after WWII for things we now engage in. I am happy that this will be changing.
Tell that to the people that lost friends and relatives on 9/11. Fine, don't torture them, just put them to death.
OMG! He's been in office for 48 hours and he has yet to keep all his campaign promises! Guantanamo goes directly to our standing with foreign governments and people and closing it is a huge step in restoring the Constitutional principles of our own government. For the record, Obama met with his economic team yesterday and this morning. He has placed a priority on getting daily economic briefings.
Yeah, most of them, including a lot of people I know, also prefer that only guilty parties suffer the consequences of our investigations. Thanks for that idea. Throwing due process to the wind puts us in a very nasty historical bed, and it makes us morally superior to just about nobody. Your anger and irrational stance do not change that.
Do you have any clue what # of people who have passed through there have been released as having done nothing except be in the wrong place at the wrong time? I want you to take a guess. Just to show how incredibly far off you are. Don't google just guess.
Here's the relevant text from the EO: Boom. Down goes Yoo! Down goes Gonzo! Down goes Rummy! Down goes Dick! Down goes Bush! Bastards all. Hallelujah! The Rule of Law is back. (What's sad is that we're celebrating this.)
Terrorists everywhere are celebrating Obama's soft stance on them. In less than 2 days, he's made the decision to close Guantanamo, close other terrorist prisons abroad and allow gays in the military. Faaaantastic.
I'm not really saying I'm a fan torture, I just think there are more pressing issues than the rights of terrorist. And I have no clue how many innocent or ones that have been let go because we don't have proof there have been. Just in my top 10, Gitmo would be about 12. Yes at some point work to clean it up, not get rid of it, but on the first day?
This being one of the main reasons I voted for Obama, I'm very happy to hear he's already set a date.
I don't get the irony of a guilty man getting the same rights as a group of innocent individuals he intended on killing. Can you please explain the irony?
How do you know he's guilty until he's had due process and a jury of peers has rendered him so? If you don't want to go through due process, who then makes the decision about guilt?
How do you know how much evidence they have. How do you know he did not admit to it? Define peers in this instance? He isn't American is he?
