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Obama, like Bush, will search your laptop/cell phone/camera without any suspicion

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by insane man, Aug 28, 2009.

  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    I doubt they could crack 1024bit key.
     
  2. rhadamanthus

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    In theory, that should protect you in the US. I'm not holding my breath.
     
  3. GladiatoRowdy

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    You are welcome to doubt all you want, but with the computing power the NSA has, 1024 bit security would be cracked like the Liberty Bell.
     
  4. rhadamanthus

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    I highly, highly doubt this.
     
  5. MoonDogg

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    I wouldn't doubt anything when it comes to the NSA....
     
  6. GladiatoRowdy

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    The list of things the NSA CAN'T do with regards to compromising data security is incredibly short. Breaking truly strong (1024 bit or better) encryption might take some time for them, but it would be a question of when, not if.
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    To be fair to Obama he has probably become aware or many things as President that he wasn't as a candidate. Also as president he is probably finding his responsibilities greatly magnified along with what sort of feedback he is getting.

    In regard to the constitutionality of these searches at airports this is a grey area. Flying is not a right and if you don't want to be searched you can choose to not fly. For that matter I don't think the TSA can arrest you for not consenting to a search but can just keep you from flying.

    Again not saying I agree with these policies but that there might not be a constitutional argument in regard to them.
     
  8. JuanValdez

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    I'll go with the crowd saying a strong encryption can't realistically be broken, no matter how shadowy the NSA may be. We talked about it at length in this thread which, incidentally, has probably a lot more to do with why the government wants the right to search computers than anything to do with intellectual property.

    As far as Obama's about-face, I see no reason to be understanding about any revelations he may have had upon winning office. I accorded Bush no such understanding. We have a Bill of Rights for a reason, and it should not be up to him to decide there are other things that are more important. Respect the Constitution or GTFO.
     
  9. insane man

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    please explain this line of thinking. in general i think freedom of movement is a right. the means of movement should be up to the individual right? so why is flying any different than driving? and if it is not any different, how can you prohibit suspicion less searches searches while driving but not while flying?

    secondly, even if it is not a right, who cares? i don't understand where in the constitution unreasonable searches and seizures are only those that infringe upon activities which i have a right on. i don't have a constitutionally granted 'right' to ride a bicycle either. but i can't be stopped and my papers cannot be unreasonably seized.

    i have a right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures upon my person, my papers, and my effects. certainly laptops would qualify under papers and effects.

    and while i can acknowledge that there should be perhaps a less stringent standard of reasonableness at the border, there should still be some suspicion required. here, there is none.
     

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