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Obama Infomercial 8 PM EDT Watch Thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by BetterThanEver, Oct 28, 2008.

  1. Lil Pun

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    Was watching CNN and there was some independent guy there in love with it and the conservatives/Republicans were actually impressed too.
     
  2. Cannonball

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    It was very well done. I typically roll my eyes whenever ANY politician brings up people they met on the campaign trail. But they did a very good job of making you sympathize with these people, seeing how this is happening to people everywhere, and how Obama plans to help them.

    The only weak point I thought was when they went live. The floor of the arena seemed a little too bare even though the arena was full. They also made a few weird rapid camera cuts at the end.
     
  3. coolbluemoon

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    The complete Obama infomercial:

    <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/GtREqAmLsoA&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/GtREqAmLsoA&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
     
  4. Master Baiter

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    I also didn't like when it went live. I thought they did a great job with the tone of the ad. It wasn't overly "typical political rally/speach. Once they went live, it was like every thing else that we have been seeing for the last several months.

    I wish they had kept it to the ad with it being finished by Obama asking for the vote.
     
  5. Old Man Rock

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    I was channel surfing and I think I found the wrong informercial...

    <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/i55_l0S7fSU&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/i55_l0S7fSU&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
     
  6. mc mark

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    So Obama does his TV show, stops by Jon Stewart this evening and is about to take the stage in Florida with the big dog. Say what you want, the man is working it!
     
  7. BetterThanEver

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    It gave a bit of insight on his childhood and mother to people, who may have thought he grew in a muslim terrorist cell. The story about his mom, and how she wondered if she would be covered for a pre-existing condition was particularly effective.
     
  8. Nolen

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    Obviously there was nothing new for those of us who have been following the election. This was a 'get to know Obama' show for the undecideds and those who haven't been following closely.

    I think they got done what they wanted to do. Battle the "he's scary/other guy!" b.s. by giving people background on who he is, his parents, his life lessons. Give specific goals on how he's going to help ordinary americans who are hurting.
     
  9. Two Sandwiches

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    LMAO!


    John McCain still whining about the money thing. That was his only rebuttal to Obama's infomercial. :D


    LMFAO, John McCain just said Sarah Palin moves and draws crowds better than any candidate he's ever seen! Have you looked across the aisle Mr. McCain?

    Is anyone else watching this clip of McCain and Larry King? He just basically compared Palin to Bill Clinton, saying that even though Clinton didn't have foreign policy experience, he did alright, and Palin would do the same. Isn't that what he bashed Obama for?
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    I just watched it online and it was very well produced. I'm not sure this late in the game if it will change any minds but I don't think this will hurt him.

    I will add that if Obama doesn't win the Presidency and leaves politics he's got a great future narrating American Experience.
     
  11. Toneh83

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    Yeah, I feel like McCain was a "tad bit" bitter about Obama's big tv ad/money issue. Those other comments were ridiculious as well. I also feel like everytime he has to open his mouth to speak about Obama, he really hates it. His face shows so much disgust when mentioning him.
     
  12. Two Sandwiches

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    All poster, please tune in to CNN right now. McCain will make a fool of himself by the end of this interview.

    He's grumpy, he's bitter, and he's elderly! Watch out!


    Also, since Trader_Jorge won't take the bet, I will self-impose one. When Obama wins the election, he goes on ignore. If, by some miracle, McCain wins, I won't post in this forum for 6 months.
     
  13. Faos

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    Did Disney produce this fairy tale?

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081030/D944H6R80.html

    Obama's prime-time ad skips over budget realities

    Oct 29, 9:48 PM (ET)

    By CALVIN WOODWARD


    WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.

    Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are - beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

    A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn't tell them:

    THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year."

    THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.

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    THE SPIN: "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond their cost."

    THE FACTS: Independent analysts say both Obama and Republican John McCain would deepen the deficit. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates Obama's policy proposals would add a net $428 billion to the deficit over four years - and that analysis accepts the savings he claims from spending cuts. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, whose other findings have been quoted approvingly by the Obama campaign, says: "Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next 10 years." The analysis goes on to say: "Neither candidate's plan would significantly increase economic growth unless offset by spending cuts or tax increases that the campaigns have not specified."

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    THE SPIN: "Here's what I'll do. Cut taxes for every working family making less than $200,000 a year. Give businesses a tax credit for every new employee that they hire right here in the U.S. over the next two years and eliminate tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. Help homeowners who are making a good faith effort to pay their mortgages, by freezing foreclosures for 90 days. And just like after 9-11, we'll provide low-cost loans to help small businesses pay their workers and keep their doors open. "

    THE FACTS: His proposals - the tax cuts, the low-cost loans, the $15 billion a year he promises for alternative energy, and more - cost money, and the country could be facing a record $1 trillion deficit next year. Indeed, Obama recently acknowledged - although not in his commercial - that: "The next president will have to scale back his agenda and some of his proposals."

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    THE SPIN: "I also believe every American has a right to affordable health care."

    THE FACTS: That belief should not be confused with a guarantee of health coverage for all. He makes no such promise. Obama hinted as much in the ad when he said about the problem of the uninsured: "I want to start doing something about it." He would mandate coverage for children but not adults. His program is aimed at making insurance more affordable by offering the choice of government-subsidized coverage similar to that in a plan for federal employees and other steps, including requiring larger employers to share costs of insuring workers.

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    THE SPIN: "We are currently spending $10 billion a month in Iraq, when they have a $79 billion surplus. It seems to me that if we're going to be strong at home as well as strong abroad that we've got to look at bringing that war to a close." These lines in the ad were taken from a debate with McCain.

    THE FACTS: Obama was once and very often definitive about getting combat troops out in 16 months (At times during the primaries, he promised to do so within a year). More recently, without backing away explicitly from the 16-month withdrawal pledge, he has talked of the need for flexibility. In the primaries, it would have been a jarring departure for him to have said merely that "we've got to look at" ending the war. As for Iraq's surplus, it's true that Iraq could end up with a surplus that large, but that hasn't happened yet.
     
  14. aghast

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    That was worldclass, Riefenstahl-level propaganda/advertisement. The music didn't do it for me, but the details they focused on were pitch perfect. The mother having to parcel out the children's weekly treat allowances in the refrigerator door, teaching them the meaning of sacrifice/hard times. The under-medicated woman rubbing her rheumatic fingers to life. The 72-year-old forced back into the workplace, putting on his Wal-Mart "associate" tag and the minimum wage & lack of health benefits it entails. The "Seize the moment / Life sure is short" line after the portrayal of his mother's early death from cancer, a perfect rebuttal/pre-emption of McCain's "He's Not Ready...Yet" argument. Enough Liz Taylor soft focus to make the target undecided audience weep. Bravo.
     
  15. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Well, here on the left coast, I am down in the garage, soldering away (fixing an old old lamp) and I hear Mrs. B-Bob screaming for me to get upstairs. And sure enough, it was on at 8 p.m. PST.

    Pretty interesting. I do like that it was incredibly positive. I usually hate the "people I meet" stuff also, but those segments were fairly genuine. The point of them was: whether or not your like Obama, you have to admit that the examples point out some serious problems we have to address, whoever leads the country.

    I didn't like the splice to the live scene so much (which could not have been live for us Californians), but whatever.

    It showed that he is not a crazy alien terrorist Marxist, but that he gives a crap about the country and wants to make it better. So feel free to vote against him and his policies, but we've got to discard the garbage about "Who is Ubama!!1??11??! He is scary!"

    It also made me feel very lucky right now.
     
  16. El_Conquistador

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    <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ReMqM_UoOuw&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ReMqM_UoOuw&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

    The last 5 seconds are worth watching...
     
  17. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Even if that's true, why did you post the first 4:17 of it?

    DROWNING
     
  18. t_mac1

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    gov. palin apparently does more. does she seem a better candidate?

    experience is overrated. it's about inspiring people to come together during these tough times and then put forth some things to help turn this thing around.

    obviously obama can inspire (look at what he has done with his campaign). and when you can inspire, you can do a lot. word to martin luther king. his WORDS help changed america and those words are still remembered to this day. HIS WORDS.
     
  19. Landlord Landry

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    I cant believe Obama supporters try to ridicule Palin, when they have Joe freakin Biden in their corner.

    really? thats your excuse for Obama now?

    Hitler inspired alot of people. and his words are still remembered to this day.

    I'm not saying Hitler=Obama, I'm saying words=not much.
     
  20. rimrocker

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    More unintentional humor sprung from desperation.

    Anyone notice the stuff crawling across the bottom of the screen... This is from the primaries when Romney was still getting votes.

    So, in the last two nights, you've posted a photo that appeared on a wingtard blog in January and an interview from early in the primary season.

    Keep digging TJ... we'll keep laughing.
     

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