Do you believe/expect men and women to completely serve together, including showering and bunking? Do you really care about the opinions of those who are actually putting their lives on the line?
He just underhanded that one........who wants to knock it out of the park? Any takers???? The room is spinning..........from all the....gayness! OH GOD!!!!
men wouldn't put their lives on the line if they were allowed (required?) to shower with their female compadres? sounds like a reason to enlist to me.
It would not bother me in the least. What does that have to do with "don't ask, don't tell?" Nothing. God damn right I care about them, as I've expressed countless times on this board. And if you don't believe that, sir, then you can go **** yourself. With all due respect.
You didn't answer the question. DO YOU EXPECT THEM ... not if it bothers you. The soldiers have to deal with this issue, NOT YOU. Don't ask, Don't tell has everything to do with this. If a person can enlist and keep their sexuality to themselves, then it isn't an issue. It becomes an issue when someone starts to flaunt their sexuality. I didn't not question your concern or support. If you care about their opinion, then you will leave it to the soldiers to decide on the issue, not a liberal agenda under the guise of "equality".
What a nonsensical question. What does that have to do with "don't ask, don't tell?" Nothing. You sure as hell did, from the way I read the post. And how absurd can you be? Since when have soldiers been left to decide anything? Except for actions in the field that don't allow for direction from a non-com or an officer, all the grunts do is follow orders.
If a soldier is so incredibly insecure about sharing a locker room with homosexuals he worries about that to the extent that it would actually detract from his responsibilities to his unit/chain of command etc He probably shouldn't be entrusted with that responsibility in the first place. And by the way, it's not jsut "the soldiers" who have to deal with this issue. If you ever have been into a mens locker room at any point in your life, you have had to deal with the issue of sharing it with homosexuals. You have managed to survive. They will too.
I get it. Since your tax dollars is paying for the soldiers, its only your opinion that matters, not the "grunts".
Do you know how I know you never served? A private locker room has very little in common with military life. Nice try. This has less to do with insecurities and homophobes and more about day to day living together and liabilities. It is taking a everyday situation and complicating it exponentially. This has less to do with gay's serving and more about "equality".
As I have stated before, I think some of you vastly underestimate the latitude "Don't ask don't tell" gives the military. I'd be willing to bet that people have been outed before and officers looked the other way. Toleration will continue to expand in the years ahead. If he repealed it, you know damn well there would be flamboyant attention w****'s enlisting just for the publicity of it all, and at least for a while, it would take away from what our military does. Besides, your off time is your own. Let them be gay then. At work, do your job. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with it. The only successful change is slow and incremental.
Any kind of flamboyant show off behavior would sweat out of them during the initial phase of basic training. As for your off time being your own, that's true, but how is that important? I don't think it's realistic in the slightest to think they would be committing homosexual acts in the middle of performing their duty.
I dont know much about the military or its culture but what type of liabilities do gays in the military raise? I'm a little unclear as to what the large distinction between military culture and lockeroom analogies. Also how does this make anything more complicated? Just confused as to the details behind your assertion.
Some of them are, instead, massively insecure or confused heteros. Metrosexuals, in my experience, are never homophobic. Which is kind of interesting. (He said looking for his manly-smelling hand lotion.)
Okay, nm. Maybe our friend T_J would be a good test case, as he's a confessed metrosexual in the extreme.
