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Obama Education Czar: failed to report homosexual statutory rape

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Sep 29, 2009.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    how old was the guy?
     
  2. vlaurelio

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    where's the boy's own admission?
     
  3. GladiatoRowdy

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    They don't know, even the "older man" part was conjecture on the part of the author. Granted, it is pretty much a given that the man was older, given the age of the boy, but the author is the one who used the term "older man."
     
  4. pgabriel

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    I know, I'm piling on the basso
     
  5. rimrocker

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    By the way, regarding this statement in the editorial...
    The first attacks on his religion came from that stalwart of reputable journalism, the Family Research Council and have been picked up by the wingnut echo chamber. Here's a debunking of that particular point...

    I think we all have an idea as to how that question would be answered.

    Also...

    There's more on particular wingnut attacks here: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/03/kevin-jennings/

    What's really insidious about this attack is that here we have a man who wrestled with his faith and genuinely struggled until he was able to reconcile his life and faith, whereupon he blossomed into, by all legitimate accounts, an amazingly effective and committed Christian. Yet because he used the brain that God gave him to both question and answer, and because he was honest about that struggle, he is now the devil incarnate to Conservative "Christians." It's as if the only true religion is the one taught to you by your parents and childhood pastor and no questioning will be allowed. That's not American and it's certainly not Christian.

    To these folks, St. Augustine would be Beelzebub. But of course, to the people making this charge (as opposed to those believing it), it's not about faith, but politics.
     
  6. basso

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    link?
     
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    yet the same crowd loves Bush because he overcame his deamons and become a born again. what a freakin joke
     
  9. giddyup

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    He also used the term older man in quotes-- which would seem to indicate it were from some source. Are these audios available anywhere?
     
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    Polanski admitted to having sex with a minor we don't have that standard of evidence here and from what is already an admittedly biased source.

    This is a serious situation but one where we don't know the facts of the story.

    I would again ask you though if you do fully support Gay rights as to why then you are pushing an editorial from someone who already has stated they are strongly opposed to Gay rights and whose goal appears to be in this story to strike against the advancing Gay rights by smearing someone who supports them?
     
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    i'm not pushing an editorial. and this story has nothing to do with gay rights. it's about adults having sex with minors, and whether third parties with knowledge of such have a responsibility to report it, and if the do, whether such a person should be in charge of our nations educational system.
     
  13. pgabriel

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    wrong thread
     
  14. pgabriel

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    because i'm sure he's going to mandate that teachers don't report such relationships to authorities
     
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    How do you reconcile that with this from the editorial?

    [rquoter]Mr. Jennings has made extremely radical statements promoting homosexuality in schools and about his utter contempt for religion that render him unsuitable for a prestigious White House appointment.[/rquoter]

    This is certainly a serious issue but one at the moment the standard of evidence here is questionable. The evidence you are presenting comes from what is a biased source. They state their bias in the quote I cite from the article.
     
  16. GladiatoRowdy

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    Are you really saying that Jennings would have been right to out the boy to the entire world, in the process creating a media circus around the boy?

    If so, then your claims of being a gay rights supporter ring pretty hollow.
     
  17. rimrocker

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    What he's really saying is that he'll support anything that might harm Obama and Democrats politically.
     
  18. basso

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    farrakhan could don a little red wig and sing the theme from Annie- doesn't mean he'd be wrong about the sun coming out tomorrow
     
  19. vlaurelio

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    are you saying that you're absolutely sure that Jennings is guilty of a crime?
     
  20. rimrocker

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    But that has nothing to do with the facts as we know them. If he donned a wig and sang about the sun coming up in the west and then sang that the guy dragging it across the sky is gay and then sang that Apollo said terrible things about baby Jesus, then you'd have an on-point analogy.
     

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