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Obama dozed, people froze

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Feb 1, 2009.

  1. surrender

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    SONIC BOOM
     
  2. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Admins, can we correct the thread title?

    Obama Administration "hit the ground running": FEMA working quickly in Kentucky

    how bas-low can you go?
     
  3. RocketMan Tex

    RocketMan Tex Contributing Member

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    Took the words right out of my mouth. Basso and Texx are stroking each other like a couple of 13 year olds at Boy Scout camp. Pathetic.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Can someone start a Tally of how many threads lead directly to egg on the face of basso, and bigtexxx?

    Even if we dismiss the huge sum of threads in the recent past that have lead to them being shown up here, we can start now with this being the first one.
     
  5. basso

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    [rquoter]Local officials were growing angry with what they said was a lack of help from the state and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. In Grayson County, about 80 miles southwest of Louisville, Emergency Management Director Randell Smith said the 25 National Guardsmen who have responded have no chain saws to clear fallen trees.

    "We've got people out in some areas we haven't even visited yet," Smith said. "We don't even know that they're alive."

    Smith said FEMA has been a no-show so far.
    [/rquoter]

    easy peasy- are you calling Smith a liar?
     
  6. Major

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    I think he's saying that in your desperation to find anything negative you can about Obama, you didn't do basic research to find out if your article is remotely accurate or anything more than the viewpoint of one person.
     
  7. Hayesfan

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    I was wondering what this thread was about.

    We got hit pretty hard, but most people here have power again and the water never was an issue.

    Of course I live closer to the city so it may be worse in south western Kentucky.

    My friends that live towards Maysville had some power issues, but they were back up and running yesterday.

    Talk about reactionary threads.

    Oh.. and the people in KY that died of carbon monoxide poisoning.. shouldn't burn things in their house with no fireplace. They were using grills and stuff to create heat and sucked all the oxygen out of their homes. At least that's what the reports on the news here said.
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    Good luck to you Hayesfan and Lil Pun. We've been lucky in MN that most of the terrible winter storms have passed south of us so all we've had to deal with is extreme cold but no ice storms and the blizzards that have hit us haven't been so bad.
     
  9. basso

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    i listen to MPR online most mornings, sounds like it's been bitterly cold in Minnesota for most of this winter.

    one of the best classical streams in the country, btw.
     
  10. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking
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    The two crises -- Katrina and this ice storm -- illustrate how differently the media treats a situation, as well as the impact of race on how the media perceives an event.

    In Katrina, the media was very desirous of smearing Bush. It was the perfect opportunity, set against a backdrop of a minority population who were stranded (never mind that they ignored the direct orders to evacuate...). You also had a group of people (NO residents) who aren't exactly known for being self-sufficient. These people live off the government, have a strong sense of entitlement to handouts, and a natural proclivity to complain and blame everyone else (especially the government) prior to holding themselves accountable. In other words, the squawk was loud and the media was all too happy to hear it.

    In this ice storm crisis, the media is absent and it gets no attention.
     
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  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    the media covered Katrina differently because oh I don't know, a whole freakin city was destroyed?
     
  12. KingCheetah

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    Obama dozed,
    people froze,
    Obasso laid an egg.
     
  13. Northside Storm

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    Are you calling the governor of Kentucky AND the director of Kentucky’s Division of Emergency Management liars?

    suffice it to say, your evidence is lacking
    you're clinging to a straw
    you saw an opportunity for sensationalism based on one source...that actually contradicted you in the title and you took it because...
    your desperation for propagating negative things about Obama is obvious
    your cynicism and judgments on an administration that is not a month old
    shows your utter contempt for America
    you would rather she fail
    then be proved wrong
    i will pray for your soul...
    ...brah

    Or in haiku format...

    America shines
    While the cynics plot and write
    Misleading titles

    mmhmm
     
  14. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    since this thread tries to compensate for bush's incompetency, here's another one

    WASHINGTON — Poor planning, weak oversight and greed combined to soak U.S. taxpayers and undermine American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, government watchdogs tell a new commission examining waste and corruption in wartime contracts.

    Since 2003, the Pentagon, State Department and U.S. Agency for International Development have paid contractors more than $100 billion for goods and services to support war operations and rebuilding.

    There are 154 open criminal investigations into allegations of bribery, conflicts of interest, defective products, bid rigging, and theft stemming from the wars, according to Thomas Gimble, the Pentagon’s principal deputy inspector general.

    The Associated Press obtained the prepared testimony of Gimble and Stuart Bowen, special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction, in advance of Monday’s first hearing by the Commission on Wartime Contracting.

    Congress created the bipartisan panel a year ago over the objections of the Bush White House, which complained the Justice Department might be forced to disclose sensitive information about investigations.

    Gimble notes that contracting scandals have gone on since the late 1700s when vendors swindled George Washington’s army.

    “Today, instead of empty barrels of meat, contractors produced inadequate or unusable facilities that required extensive rework,” Gimble says. “Like the Continental Forces who encountered fraud, the (Defense Department) also encounters fraud.”

    A report from Bowen, “Hard Lessons: The Iraq Reconstruction Experience,” reviews the problems in an effort that has cost the U.S. $51 billion. Before the war, the Bush administration projected $2.4 billion would be needed for reconstruction, he says.

    His findings are based on hundreds of interviews and thousands of pages of documents.

    The U.S. government “was neither prepared for nor able to respond quickly to the ever-changing demands” of stabilizing the war-torn country and then rebuilding it, Bowen says. “For the last six years we have been on a steep learning curve.”

    Styled after the Truman Committee, which examined World War II spending six decades ago, the eight-member panel has broad authority to examine military support contracts, reconstruction projects and private security companies.

    It is more blue collar than blue ribbon. The first members were not named until July; there still is a vacancy. They had no offices, no support staff and no work plan.

    The commission found space in an unassuming building in Rosslyn, Va., just down the road from the Pentagon. It has spent the last few months getting organized. The leaders are Mike Thibault, a former deputy director at the Defense Contract Audit Agency, and Grant Green, a former State and Defense department official.

    The panel has until August 2010 to produce a final report. Along the way, it can refer to the Justice Department any violations of the law it finds.

    Gimble and Bowen, in their prepared testimony, focus on different aspects of the wars, but with the same bleak tone.

    Gimble’s office found that a small number of inexperienced civilian or military personnel “were assigned far-reaching responsibilities for an unreasonably large number of contracts.”

    He cites an account tapped frequently by U.S. military commanders in Iraq and Afghanistan to build schools, roads, and hospitals. More than $3 billion was spent on these projects, which were not always properly managed.

    “In some instances, there appeared to be scant, if any, oversight of the manner in which funds were expended,” Gimble says. “Complicating matters further is the fact that payment of bribes and gratuities to government officials is a common business practice in some Southwest Asia nations.”

    In an advance copy of the “Hard Lessons” report, Bowen says his office found fraud to be less of a problem than persistent inefficiencies and hefty contractor fees that “all contributed to a significant waste of taxpayer dollars.”

    Also scheduled to testify at Monday’s hearing are the inspectors general at the State Department and USAID.
     
  15. rezdawg

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    What a waste of time this thread is...seriously, to actually start a thread on this is so pathetic. Get a life.
     
  16. Refman

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    If the victims got taken by surprise and nobody had any idea the ice storms were coming, then FEMA got taken by surprise too. They would have had no chance to get supplies and equipment in place ahead of time.

    As for the President hosting a Super Bowl party...really? Are you serious? Part of being President is hosting these types of things. Additionally, all he can do is order the people with know-how to go help. If because of road conditions, you cannot get the equipment and supplies in, you're kind of stuck.

    If basso and texxx are the voice of the Republican party, count me out. I'll resume being a right leaning independent who has not lost his sense of fairness and common sense.
     
  17. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    The temperature rose over 32 degrees for the first time all month yesterday.
     
  18. Zac D

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    IT WAS AWESOME.
     
  19. mtbrays

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    basso lied, more bandwidth was fried.
     
  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    45 degrees...shorts and t-shirt weather!
     

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