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Obama and Wiretapping

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rhadamanthus, Apr 8, 2009.

  1. michecon

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    Rand Paul may not be crazy, but he's definitely a duplicitous weasel.

    Greenwald has another great essay up regarding this obvious breach of the first amendment, and then makes the cognizant observation that this is precisely the reason that Anwar Al-Awlaki is a target for assassination:

     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    its all a civil liberty until you are a muslim
     
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    Thanks for the article Rhad.

    [rquoter] Sen. Rand Paul:
    PAUL: I’m not for profiling people on the color of their skin, or on their religion, but I would take into account where they’ve been traveling and perhaps, you might have to indirectly take into account whether or not they’ve been going to radical political speeches by religious leaders. It wouldn’t be that they are Islamic. But if someone is attending speeches from someone who is promoting the violent overthrow of our government, that’s really an offense that we should be going after — they should be deported or put in prison.[/rquoter]

    I wonder if that would apply to Tea Partiers who have played fast and loose in their rhetoric regarding violence and the legitimacy of the Obama Admin.?
     
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    Greenwald notes that irony as well:

     
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    "we came unarmed...this time".

    wtf rand? although i dont agree w/ everything he says, there is alot to like about the guy, but he has a bad habit of putting his foot in his mouth.
     
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    Good news. The case against Thomas Drake appears to be weakening.

     
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    Drake took the plea deal.

    I kind of wish he'd forced the government to drop the charges, but I understand his rationale. Regardless, the DOJ blinked, and Obama's shame is compounded with failure.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    well Obama's push with this illegal and authoritarian measures should meet failure. I don't really see these programs ending unless congress grows some cajones and really pushes a formal investigation.
     
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    We're beset on all sides by fools, liars, and hypocrites in our government, at all levels. Those who deserve our attention and respect are far out numbered by those who don't. What a freakin' mess.
     
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    Great article in the NYT on Obama's crazy case against Drake. Worth a read.
     
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    Over 20 noted whistleblowers ask that Obama's "Transparency Award" be rescinded.

     
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    Obama continues the escalation against whistleblowers, leakers,and activists. I know this thread is huge, but read this post, please.

     
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    HOLY CRAP

    Project PM Investigation Reveals the Domestic Echelon
    link
    The complete release is available here.

    Another link from Forbes on HbGary's dealings with Apple.
     
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    Too bad we don't have a President and DoJ that are doing their job to protect the citizens from this kind of crap, and violation of our rights.
     
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    And the companies... Holy smokes. Illegality abounds.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    is this against citizens? it doesn't say specifically but implies its used in foreign territory
     
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    I presuemed that domestic echelon meant that citizens would be included. Add that to the fact that it mentioned cell phone apps, I'm not sure how the initial collection wouldn't include citizens.
     
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    yeah, we all know the American government has a stirring record with FISA.
     

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