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Obama and Ayers: 21 years of "just guys in the neighborhood."

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 6, 2008.

  1. IROC it

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    You didn't know? Warren Buffet will personally send us each a check marked "paid in full" on the memo!!
     
  2. mc mark

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    The Dow dropped another 678 points today.

    And this is what mccain supporters want to talk about?

    No wonder Obama is wiping the floor with your candidate.
     
  3. IROC it

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    And yet, liberals would have you believe they invented newspapers and speech... so we're certain Obama knew well before he got so close to Ayers.

    It must be tough to be so supportive of domestic terrorist sympathizers. It's a punch in the gut to real patriots, eh?


    "Make it stop... make it stop... waaaahaaaaaaa!"
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  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I don't care dude, like most of the electorate. you're the guys crying that no one's listening about ayer's
     
  5. mc mark

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    You guys are getting ugly
     
  6. IROC it

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    Welcome to the campaign.



    Truth shall make you free, my friends... and it gets ugly sometimes.



    BTW- Don't bum any cigs under the pressure of it all.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    the truth, the stock market is under 8800 from failed bush policies and mccain is more of the same, and his dumb ass shot his own self in the foot because his dumb ass really thought the economy was fine because his dumb ass is out of touch and if his dumb ass has just chose romney he would be in a better position when he chose palin because of russian experience.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    The truth is that McCain has his own Ayers connection. The widow Annenberg is a McCain supporter. Annenberg is the one who had Ayers on the board. Why doesn't McCain denounce Annenberg's support?
     
  9. Faos

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    I'm probably older than you, but I remember when "character" used to be an issue. Apparently not anymore, but it's still important to me.

    Wiping the floor? Is a 3 or 4 point lead in the polls really "wiping the floorl"?
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    Character is an issue, and it's one of the reasons I'm voting for Obama. His character his head and shoulders above that of his opponent.
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    LOL, obama has no character because he's trying to improve education with an education professor
     
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    Shhhh... he's got floors to clean.



    Got a respect him for keeping a job in these tough times.



    It shows character.
     
  13. basso

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    excerpted from McCain's interview with Charlie Gibson set to air tonight.

    [rquoter]GIBSON: Does this almost monolithic focus on the economy in the news and in people's minds in recent weeks ...
    MCCAIN: I totally understand it.
    GIBSON: Hurt your campaign?
    MCCAIN: I don't know, Charlie. I think by offering wise solutions and providing mature leadership that it'll redound in my behalf. Look, in my favor. But this is a tough campaign. I'm the underdog. I've always been the underdog from the beginning. I was the underdog in the primaries.
    I can remember when you and I were in a debate and I was down at the end. And you were down at the end by precedence of how people thought you were standing. So we're going to be OK. And we're going to be fine.
    GIBSON: But you were sort of humming along there in the polls for a while, and then this issue sort of pervaded everything. And it's not, it seems to have coincided with the drop.
    MCCAIN: I'm not going to complain about the hand I'm dealt, my friend. We're coming up with solutions. We're trying to give the vision and leadership for the American people. And I'll accept their judgment.
    GIBSON: Why then in recent days have you focused so in what you've had to say on Sen. Obama's character, talked about the fact that we don't know him, that he's come out of nowhere, that he's not an open book, etc.
    MCCAIN: Well, I'm not sure that's character. What I think it is, is does he have the experience and the knowledge and judgment and has he made the right decisions and has he told — been candid with the American people. I think that's important.
    They certainly know me.
    GIBSON: You don't think he's been thoroughly vetted, having gone through all the primaries and all the campaigning, running for president as long as you have? Two years?
    MCCAIN: No, actually I don't. In fact, Sen. Clinton in their debates said that the American people didn't know enough about him, including his relationship with Mr. [William] Ayers. That's what she said. And I agree with that. He said he was a guy in the neighborhood. We know that's not true. He said — he wrote down a piece of paper that he would take public financing for his presidential campaign if I would. He betrayed the trust of the American people there.
    He looked in the camera twice during the debate with Sen. Clinton and said, "I will sit down and negotiate with John McCain before I decide to forgo public financing for my campaign." He never called me. He looked in the camera and told the American people something that was patently false. He told the American people about his relationship with Mr. Ayers, that he was a guy in the neighborhood.
    He wasn't a guy in the neighborhood. He launched his political career in his living room, in Mr. Ayers' living room. And I don't care about two washed-up old terrorists that are unrepentant about trying to destroy America. But I do care, and Americans should care, about his relationship with him and whether he's being truthful and candid about it.
    GIBSON: Do you think his character or lack of candor disqualifies him to be president of the United States?
    MCCAIN: I'll leave that up to the American people. But I have every right to insist that he be candid and truthful with the American people. And he needs to be asked about it, and he needs to be forthcoming.
    GIBSON: You didn't raise that, this argument, this argument, or line of argument, at the debate the other night. And I asked Sen. Obama about that yesterday. He said yeah, I'm surprised that John didn't say that to my face.
    MCCAIN: Again, two things I've never been accused of lacking. And one is passion, and the other is courage.
    I mean, I can accept a lot of the other criticisms. It didn't come up in the flow of the conversation. But it did come up, and I pointed out that he asked for $3 million for an overhead projector at a planetarium in his hometown of Chicago.
    And coincidentally the guy who was the chairman of that organization pledged to raise $200,000 for his campaign. His record is replete of requests for pork barrel, unnecessary, wasteful spending. And I'll let the American people make a judgment there.
    GIBSON: Do you think the relationship with Ayers is a critical issue in this campaign or factor in this campaign?
    MCCAIN: I think it's a factor about Sen. Obama's candor and truthfulness with the American people. That's what I think it's about. As I say, I don't care about Mr. Ayers who on Sept. 11, 2001 said he wished he'd have bombed more. I don't care about that. I care about him being truthful about his relationship with him. And Americans will care.
    GIBSON: And you're comfortable that this should be a focus in the last days of the campaign?
    MCCAIN: I think it's something that needs to be examined. Sen. Clinton said it should be examined during their primary and never was.[/rquoter]
     
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    Ayers is trying to "radicalize" the education of college students.

    Read up.


    That, my friends, is not an "improvement" in most of moderate, middle America.



    And the "character" you guys tout is of the likes of Che...

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  15. pgabriel

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    lol, socialists government, the current republican has increased government at record pace, more than anyone in history.

    obama can't beat that dude. you're on fire
     
  16. Rashmon

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    It's a perfect strategy.

    He couldn't even look Obama in the eye in the first two debates.

    He is seething at the thought of a Dukakis-like thumping in the election by "that one."

    McCain is on the verge of a PTSD meltdown and his infamous temper is ready to explode and expose him for the fraud he has become.

    Hubris.
     
  17. IROC it

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    And yet, Obama wants to socialize medicine. You're quasi-correct... when he can't beat, he joins 'em.


    Why thanks, I'll seek medical attention.







    (Time to scream "BUSH!!!" and see if we get distracted.)
     
  18. pgabriel

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    says the guy b****ing because no one cares about ayers

    and i rhymed
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    Iroc it, Why haven't you read Obama's health care plan? Why are you commenting on the health care plan when you obviously have no idea what it's about. It isn't socialized medicine.
     
  20. mc mark

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    oh no, don't get me wrong. I fully expected this to get nasty. Especially when Mccan and his followers have nothing left to offer America. It's just striking when it's all laid bare for all to see.
     

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