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Obama Aide: Hillbilly is a monster!

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  1. basso

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    and i quite agree.

    [rquoter]'Hillary Clinton's a monster': Obama aide blurts out attack in Scotsman interview

    By GERRI PEEV
    HILLARY Clinton has been branded a "monster" by one of Barack Obama's top advisers, as the gloves come off in the race to win the Democrat nomination.

    In an unguarded moment during an interview with The Scotsman in London, Samantha Power, Mr Obama's key foreign policy aide, let slip the camp's true feelings about the former first lady.

    Her comments came as Mr Obama, whose defeats in Texas and Ohio on Tuesday were largely attributed to a series of negative attacks on him, vowed to turn up the heat on Mrs Clinton over her claims to be the more experienced candidate.

    Yesterday, the Obama camp went on the offensive, pointing out that Mrs Clinton has still not released her tax return and casting doubt on her experience.

    In response, a Clinton adviser said the attack reminded him of the witch-hunt led by special prosecutor Kenneth Starr, which led to the impeachment of her husband, Bill, when he was president.

    Earlier, clearly rattled by the Ohio defeat, Ms Power told The Scotsman Mrs Clinton was stopping at nothing to try to seize the lead from her candidate.

    "We f***** up in Ohio," she admitted. "In Ohio, they are obsessed and Hillary is going to town on it, because she knows Ohio's the only place they can win.

    "She is a monster, too – that is off the record – she is stooping to anything," Ms Power said, hastily trying to withdraw her remark.

    Ms Power said of the Clinton campaign: "Here, it looks like desperation. I hope it looks like desperation there, too.

    "You just look at her and think, 'Ergh'. But if you are poor and she is telling you some story about how Obama is going to take your job away, maybe it will be more effective. The amount of deceit she has put forward is really unattractive."

    Ms Power's comments reveal how the inexperienced Obama campaign is coming under increasing pressure from a battle-hardened Clinton camp that saw Ohio as its last chance to save its candidate.

    Before Tuesday's vote in Ohio, the press and the Clinton camp seized on remarks by Austan Goolsbee, Ms Power's colleague, on the North America Free Trade Agreement (Nafta). His comments are widely believed to have cost Mr Obama the Ohio Democratic presidential primary.

    Mr Goolsbee, Mr Obama's top economic policy adviser, had told Canadian officials a public pledge to force a renegotiation of Nafta with tougher labour and environmental rules was "more about political positioning".

    But the Clinton camp said Mr Obama could not tell the public of Ohio, where many manufacturing jobs have been lost, one thing and then tell a foreign government something else behind closed doors.

    Yesterday, Mr Obama blamed fierce attacks by Mrs Clinton for his defeats in this week's big primaries, and quickly made good on a promise to sharpen his criticism of her, in what promises to become an all-out brawl in the race for the White House.

    The Illinois senator took the offensive against Mrs Clinton, targeting her claims she is more experienced in handling foreign policy. "Was she negotiating treaties? Was she handling crises? The answer is no," he said. "She made a series of arguments on why she should be a superior candidate. It's important to examine that argument."

    In recent days, the former first lady argued that Mr Obama was getting a free ride with the media and had hinted he was not ready to be commander-in-chief in a crisis.

    Mrs Clinton, asked about her national security qualifications, highlighted a series of events in which she played a role, including peace talks in Northern Ireland, the Kosovo refugee crisis and standing up for women's rights in China.

    Mr Obama's aides went on the offensive yesterday, holding a conference call to ask why Mrs Clinton had not released her tax returns. Her campaign team responded with a statement e-mailed to reporters while they were on the call that said the Clintons' returns since they left the White House would be made public around 15 April.

    "There's no doubt Senator Clinton went very negative over the last week," Mr Obama said, adding that the Clinton campaign's attacks "had some impact" on the poll results, "particularly in the context where many of you in the press had been persuaded you had been too hard on her and too soft on me".

    After this latest row, Howard Dean, head of the Democratic Party, warned that the tone of the campaign "may get nastier" and said discussions would take place to try to prevent that.

    After Mr Obama's camp had raised the issue of Mrs Clinton's failure to release her tax returns, Howard Wolfson, a spokesman for Mrs Clinton, described the statement as being reminiscent of the attacks the Clintons endured during investigations by prosecutor Kenneth Starr in the 1990s, which many saw as politically motivated.

    Mr Wolfson's introduction of Mr Starr's name again portrays Mrs Clinton as a victim, while her attacks on Mr Obama's "preparedness to be commander in chief and steward of the economy" continue.

    Mr Wolfson said: "I, for one, do not believe imitating Ken Starr is the way to win a Democratic primary election for president."

    The Clinton campaign has also attacked Mr Obama's inexperience on foreign matters, but Ms Power insisted he was not afraid to take tough decisions on this front.

    She added: "Hillary Clinton always portrays his position on meeting with dictators as naive."

    Ms Power also described working for Mr Obama as a pleasure, and said that people who knew him "adore him".

    She added: "When we started this, we were all backing the guy who was supposed to lose.

    "He was 25 points down going in to Iowa in January.

    "If people were in this for the job or the political reward they would have gone somewhere else. They would not have gone to Barack."

    Ms Power also said she believed Gordon Brown and Mr Obama would get on "like a house on fire".

    Ms Power was in the UK to promote her book on Sergio Vieira de Mello, the extraordinary UN representative who died in a Baghdad bomb attack.

    PUBLISH AND BE DAMNED

    WHEN is off the record actually off the record? When the rules are established in advance.

    Journalists are always looking for knowledge and want the information they receive to be available for publication.

    But occasionally an interviewer will accept an exchange is "off the record" and that the conversation is not attributable. Remarks can be used as background to inform a journalist's article.

    If a conversation is to be off the record, that agreement is usually thrashed out before the interview begins. Sometimes, public figures say something and then attempt to retract it by insisting it was "off the record" after the event.

    But by then it is too late, particularly if it is in the public interest that the story be published.

    In this instance, Samantha Power was promoting her book and it was established in advance that the interview was on the record.

    A WOMAN OF POWER
    SAMANTHA Power is the embodiment of the American immigrant dream.

    Born in Dublin in 1970, she moved to the United States with her mother aged nine.

    After being educated in state schools in Pittsburgh and Georgia, she gained entry to the prestigious Yale University, where she studied history. The self-depre
    cating Ms Power said this changed her life and opened many doors.

    She worked as freelance journalist in Bosnia, after teaching herself the language in Croatia. Her only other journalism experience prior to that was covering the Yale women's volleyball team.

    After graduating from Harvard Law School, she became an executive director and founder of the Carr Centre for Human Rights Policy at Harvard.

    The 37-year-old already has one Pulitzer Prize behind her, for her book A Problem from Hell: America and the Age of Genocide and she is in the UK and Ireland to plug her new book, Chasing the Flame: Sergio Vieira de Mello and the Fight to Save the World.

    Ms Power was head-hunted by Barack Obama to become his foreign-policy adviser in 2005 and combines this role with her job as a Time magazine columnist and professor of practice of global leadership and public policy at Harvard.[/rquoter]
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    this is being discussed in another thread, you're spreading your line to thin


    battle of attrition
     
  3. Major

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    Samantha Power "resigned", saying:

    With deep regret, I am resigning from my role as an advisor [to] the Obama campaign effective today. Last Monday, I made inexcusable remarks that are at marked variance from my oft-stated admiration for Senator Clinton and from the spirit, tenor, and purpose of the Obama campaign. And I extend my deepest apologies to Senator Clinton, Senator Obama, and the remarkable team I have worked with over these long 14 months.

    Interesting to see the different reactions from the campaigns when these kinds of things happen. Has anyone left the Clinton campaign for their Ken Starr comments?
     
  4. real_egal

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    Indeed! Obama can claim credit at any situation. Whatever bad happened, he didn't know, and his stuff will take the blame. Not only that, he can also claim a positive campaign after negativity. Whatever good happened, is all his superb leadership. Last time I saw such leadership, was among so-called communist leaders.
     
  5. pgabriel

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    and if he had absolute control on what his aides say you would b**** about that because just like the obama fanatics you b**** about you will b**** about anything he does

    obama left the seat down
    obama didn't put the cap on the toothpaste
    obama didn't turn the lights off when he left the house
    obama didn't use his turning signal
    obama doesn't cut his yard often enough

    this is the level of complaints you are force to use

    in the infamous words of my best friend

    "worry about yo team"
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes Obama should take blame because the woman who went against his idea of a positive campaign is now gone. Somehow that's a bad thing for Obama?
     
  7. MR. MEOWGI

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    I thought the Democratic party was the team.
     
  8. real_egal

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    Can you be more specific, instead of assuming as usual? What everything Obama did I was complaining about?

    Turning a negative into a positive is so-new politics. I couldn't help laughing when I saw Major's comment after that, because it looks so familiar. In the evil red China, some government officials have secretaries writing such stuff for them. After some disasters, they will praise those official how promptly reacted, how they care and how they lead.

    Of course you can continue to play the assumption game, or simply label me hating blacks as usual.
     
  9. ROCKET RICH NYC

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    How about...

    "Worry about OUR country?"

    I'll take the resignation wink wink as a step in the right direction for his campaign. I don't think it necessarily will help the country out.
     
  10. Refman

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    Well...those things are irritating. ;)
     
  11. El_Conquistador

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    It's been a HORRIBLE 2 weeks for Obama. He is getting pummeled right now.
     
  12. pippendagimp

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    hillaroid be's tha CROOKIE MONSTER!!! :D
     
  13. ROCKET RICH NYC

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    C is for CROOKIE! and CROOKIE is for ME! :p
     
  14. Major

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    It's not a positive at all - he lost one of his very impressive, outside-the-box foreign policy advisors in the fiasco. It hurts him in a lot of ways - but it does show where the campaign draws the ethical lines. So from an ethics perspective, where he's be accused of being all talk and no substance, you see the substance. You can't avoid surrogates doing stupid things - that's reality. But you do have control of what you do when they do so.

    You've seen Hillary's people do the same things, but remain in top positions with the campaign - that's the fundamental difference there. And the funny thing is that many of those people, ignoring the comments, actually deserve to be fired on a performance basis anyway.
     
  15. pgabriel

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    if I have never said you hated blacks. thanks for the apology in advance, but since YOU brought it up, I guess I know where your head is.
     
  16. pgabriel

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    you criticize that he fired someone who made a negative comment about hillary, linking it to communisim.
     
  17. pgabriel

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    I doubt he's a hillary fan
     
  18. pippendagimp

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    didn't you already admit to being racist on this board a few years back :confused:

    or was it only whites you don't like? i don't remember exactly...
     
  19. real_egal

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    It must be my English, coz I wouldn't dare to link it to your reading comprehension or intention. My comment was directed at Major's comment - firing that person shows what kind of campaign Obama has run. Isn't that claiming credit for every situation? Isn't that turning a negative into positive? That's exactly what many communist leaders do. Where did I criticize Obama for firing her? In reality, it's a simple damage control move, nothing to be criticized, nor there is anything to "admire" about, IMHO.

    Then you jumped on me and accused me of b****ing about every single thing of Obama.
     

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