Obama 2 years ago: "I will not put American boots on the ground in Syria". He lied.

I give up, you win.

Suggesting it is Obama's fault for your dysfunctional congress is beyond me. The same congress that tried to repeal Obamacare like 50 times (not sure why it took 50 times for them to figure out it would fail)? The same congress that can't even decide on it's leader? You mean the least productive congress in the history of the united states in terms of bills voted on?

No one is washing Obama of blame, you're just blaming him for the wrong things.

 

You can pretty much dismiss anything texxx has to say in regards to Obama or his foreign policy. He has been wrong for almost 15 years now on everything.

 

You still won't answer the question. What should be the course of action going forward in Syria? Don't talk about what Obama should've done, a solution won't be found in the past.

Please advocate for something.

 

I have no doubt that if Obama had not sent in advisors bigtuxx would have created a thread sputtering the exact opposite of this thread.

 

Mind you, I don't agree with everything here.

1. Economic Stimulus after the worst recession in a long time
2. expanded health insurance for children program
3. Ledbetter law requiring equal pay for women
4. Obamacare
5. gay rights in the military
6. lifting 8 year ban on embryonic stem cell research
7. Consumer protection bureau, protecting consumers for predatory lending practices
8. Dodd-Frank - Wall street bank oversight
9. Fair-sentencing act - reducing the disparity between punishment for crack vs cocaine
10. Small business jobs act: improve lending for small businesses
11. Economic sanctions on Iran act
12. Family smoking and tobacco act: impose more restrictions on tobacco companies
13. Fraud act: enhanced criminal prosecution in financial fraud cases
14. Hiring incentives: payroll breaks for businesses hiring unemployed workers

There's more here -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_United_States_Congress

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/112th_United_States_Congress
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/113th_United_States_Congress
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/114th_United_States_Congress

 

Here read this from the WaPo

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/22/AR2010122205620.html

"This is the most dysfunctional political environment that I have ever seen. But then you have to juxtapose that with [this Congress being] one of, at least, the three most productive Congresses" since 1900, said Norman Ornstein, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.

 

Bigtexxx is too smart to fall for this nonsense, everybody knows the only way to win a real-life war is to have more people on your side, like the game RISK.

If you're so god damn smart, what happens when Obama rolls a 3 and Putin rolls a 5 if Obama only has 50 people and Putin has 200? it's simple math. It's like you want the communists to win.

 

http://www.npr.org/2010/12/26/132329542/this-congress-did-a-lot-but-whats-next#

"The session of Congress about to come to an end — the 111th — has passed more legislation than any Congress since the 1960s."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-1960s-makes-most-laws-for-americans-as-111th

"However history judges the 535 men and women in the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate the past two years, one thing is certain: The 111th Congress made more law affecting more Americans since the “Great Society” legislation of the 1960s."

 

So let's send more young Americans to die for who knows what so Obama can stay honest?

These are peoples husbands, wives, brothers, sisters, husbands, sons, daughters, etc... When are we gonna stop treating them (each other) like human meat pawns in a game none of them want to play and instead as real people?

 

Nobody wants to wash all accountability from Obama's hands. The thing that you and others like you seem to have such a problem understanding is that there is a difference between holding someone accountable and holding that same person accountable for every single problem that exists in the world.

Of course, it doesn't matter because you decided a long time ago that playing petty political games is more important than having discussions about fixing actual problems in this country. In fact, this entire thread is one big contradiction on your part as you have criticized Obama for not doing enough in Syria while simultaneously accusing him of lying for sending troops (50 LOL) over there. You've already tried to build this issue in a way where you will be able to criticize Obama no matter what, you just don't realize how transparent your agenda is.

 

What's amazing is that even bigtexxx is under the impression that Obama had not lied before this. That's insane.

 

You are absolutely right!

That's it! I'm never voting for Obama again!

 

Given the current situation in the Middle East, what strategy would you advocate going forward in Syria?

 

Why should politicians never change their minds/positions? Bush I went back on his word because he had to do so in order to work with a Democratic Congress and it was the right move on his part. In fact, I'm pretty sure he took more heat from his own party than the Democrats on that one, although it's hard to remember exactly since you cited an example from almost 30 years ago.

 

Why is anyone directly engaging bigtexx? This entire thread is intended to troll all the overly-earnest progressives (among which I would include myself). He's not going to respond seriously to anything we post to counter his trolling.

 

The difference is that one of them was willing to stay the course and clean up the mess while maintaining stability in the area to keep from creating more mess. The other one is Obama who is the cause of both breeding grounds.

 

That you honestly believe this shows how lost you truly are.