Obama 2 years ago: "I will not put American boots on the ground in Syria". He lied.

Some of this isn't a secret:

Reuters: Iran Says May Quit Syria Talks, In Worsening Spat with Saudi Arrival

Rancor Between Saudi Arabia and Iran Threatens Talks on Syria

 

Politicians lie?

 

That's unfortunately a very small percentage of the electorate.

 

Don't be cynical about it, that attitude is the reason were in this situation to begin with. If all Americans voted, we'd have a democratic house, Senate and supreme Court.

Politicians spin, which is distinctly different from lying. It's our job as an informed electorate to use our critical thinking skills to discern the spin from the truth.

 

Here is Tulsi Gabbard (D) Hawaii speaking on this today.
A politician telling it like it is.

https://youtu.be/u7Q8X60KQ9Q

 

The US backed alliance is atacking ISIS and cutting off supplies and people are playing a tit for tat "he lied" charade.

Gee, it sounds like the situation is Syria has worsened in the last two years? And all i previously saw were complaints that Commander in Chief Obama was spineless and wouldn't attack ISIS.

What terrible flawed logic to even start a thread on.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

This is great news for McCain.

 

The Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) was signed by Bush in 2008. Remember when he got those shoes thrown at him? That was exactly why he was in Iraq.

 

You're wrong. It's so frustrating that you're so wrong.

Truth is troops were leaving before he even went into office. Here is proof, believe it or not (you probably won't)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.–Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

Bush signed into law the withdrawal of all of our troops by the end of 2011. The fact Obama campaigned on it is irrelevant when Bush is the one who signed the bill. Let's not even consider the fact the Iraqi government signed a law barring our troops from being there as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Status_of_Forces_Agreement_referendum,_2010

Don't let the facts get in the way of your blind hatred though.

 

as stated above, 50 troops may seem like a drop in the bucket, but if they are calling in airstrikes from B-1 bombers from Qatar, F-18's from the Persian Gulf Fleet and Predator Drones from the UAE they represent more firepower than most country's entire military. And they operate with a smaller risk factor than a force of ground troops. They can hide among the population and they can be extracted quickly.

The strategy is pressure on Assad, and containment of ISIL at a cost the American people can tolerate. The end game in Syria is a compromise with Russia to remove Assad. That's it, we have no allies in Syria to support, only a humanitarian interest in preventing genocide.

Only blowhards think the President isn't charting the most cost/benefit effective
choices his military commanders offer.

Welcome, but don't let BigPuffery get to you. He's either the trolliest troll or the most irrational FAUXtard on here. You really can't tell which. I think he just pitches up outrageous softballs for thinking folks to knock out of the park.

 

You are wrong again.
As late as July 2015:
"Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said his senior field commanders here do not require additional U.S. forces or the need to deploy advisers in the field with Iraq's combat forces for the offensive to succeed."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...our-ramadi-offensive-gains-momentum/30342359/

 

Like I genuinely wonder, what makes you think such things? How do you reconcile your ideas being so disconnected from facts?

It just doesn't make any sense to me.

I don't agree with everything Obama has done, but I don't disagree with everything he has done as well. How can you honestly ever disagree with everything someone does and just ignore the facts?

The crazy thing is even after we prove to you that Bush signed the bill of troop withdrawal, I think you're still gonna think that. Are you a deeply religious person? Where do you get your ideas from?

 

It's as if he totally forgot that the Status of Forces agreement existed which was signed by Bush. He also forgot that the propped up Iraqi regime that we created had the final say in whether to extend U.S. troop involvement and ignore the agreement which they declined which would mean in order to extend the stay of U.S. ground combat troops in Iraq, a second invasion overthrowing the regime that we propped up no more than a decade ago would have been necessary. Talk about service members dying in vain.

 

Fair enough but how does that stop a civil war in Syria?

 

What about the Iraqi government saying, get out of our country?

 

Santa Clause is still real right!?!?!

 

No, it's called being rational and not having a partisan mind about every aspect of life. Obama played politics with his RHETORIC TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. He knew there was no chance of extending combat troops in Iraq as long as the regime in Iraq denied it. He took this situation to his advantage and claimed he was 'ending the war'. In fact he actually requested a troop extension but was denied by the Iraqi regime. So yes, He was being disingenuous to the public like every president before him. So if Obama wanted to ignore Iraq's request, there would essentially be a whole new invasion attempting to topple the regime that we just put in place less than a decade ago. I mean.. how else are you going to extend the use of combat troops in another sovereign nation that doesn't want them anymore?