No, I saw the article you posted. But I listened to the interview. Did you? She got prickly with a prickly guest. She did the same thing with Ike Turner (and I'm serious, that is the best analogy I can come up with in terms of angry agressive guests). So, she did not roll over and whimper for him. He stomps off the show. We can have different readings of that event, and that's okay. Terry Gross is not a hack. I don't really know O'Reilly. I've read transcripts of his that are ludicrous, but I readily admit I've not listened to him enough to form a thorough opinion.
Of course not. Bill O'Reilly wouldn't approve. Damn, people. Think for yourselves. Partisan politics sucks ass.
There are plenty of little Franken's in this forum, I don't need to. I've seen the relevant passages pertaining to O'Reilly posted here. For some reason an unfunny comedian/writer/political hack's attacking those he disagrees with doesn't interest me. Maybe I'll check out the sequel to Stuart Saves His Family when it comes out.
Well, duh, he is a liberal. I enjoyed the book except for the Bob Jones chapter. It seems like Franken didn't really like what he did either.
You keep asking for more and more examples. Why don't you just go read the book, for crying out loud? I guess you would rather get your information second or third hand and then try to debunk it using shallow, meaningless attempts at analysis. Franken gives lots and lots of examples of Coulter's lies, but I don't have time to do your research for you. Read the book. Statistics on news reports and commercials run during the 2000 election as well as after. Actual hard numbers. Read the book. Now you are just repeating what your talking heads have drilled into you. From my perspective, the media reamed Clinton for every little piece of crap rumor put out there and Bush got a pass from day one from the press. Start thinking for yourself. You will never be able to do that if you get all of your information from one side of the debate. If you choose to be a Bush bobble head like some around here, that is your perogative, but when you do that, don't be surprised to hear people call you on it.
Oh, he's got to be an unfunny talk show host or tabloid tv show host/writer/political hack to interest you. Got it.
Did you actually hear the interview? The link to it was posted in this forum. The interviewer did not seem to be an O'Reilly fan, but he came across as a child, walking out of an interview that he couldn't control. Again, read the book. You will find out a lot about Atlantic Journal and National Review. I will reiterate - If you get all of your information from one side of the aisle, you are a lemming.
No, well documented research is using actual facts and backing them up rather than making baseless claims. Everything that Franken mentions in his book is backed up and he tells you where to go to see the data for yourself.
100% acurate. We need to start looking beyond the us vs. them garbage that is spewed by virtually every politician and start looking for solutions that cut through the partisan black or white, left or right bile.
I get the feeling you were talking about me (along with others) and want to make it clear that I do not agree with everything that Franken says in his book, but that doesn't change the fact that it was a very well researched book with plenty of humor. So I take it you have never read anything by Hannity, Coulter, or O'Reilly either.
A couple of talking points for you andy- 1. I'm at work right now and can't really just go out and read the book. 2. I'm glad you think anyone other than your own analysis is shallow, I will go ahead and put you on my list of people who have a credible opinion that I disagree with. Oh wait no I won't. 3. Statistics on commercials and news reports doesn't prove squat. That's not even getting the gist of what conservatives are complaining about when they say bias liberal media...its all in the tone and the presentation 4. Wow. Please stop being ignorant about this.. Like I said, I noticed a liberal bias way before there was a big hubub about it. MAybe you missed that, or did I tell some sort of half truth in it? Ok, I shouldn't have said that but you seem to be just as bad as someone Frankken would call a lying liar...see how easily it happens You say I am a Bush bobble head before you have any evidence just because I'm trying to give Brother Bill a fair shake of the stick... Thats enough of your lies and rhetoric for a little andy, I have to go back to work now...
You guys can borrow my book. I'm serious, you should read this. Let this be the only liberal book you read in your lifetimes. As for O'Reilly, he is only in one chapter in the book, 18 pages. That's not counting the Chicken Hawk fiction story. I think the person who gets creamed the most is Hannitty. What a douche. As for O'Reilly, it wasn't a slip up, he claimed to have won 2 Peabodys in 4 different occasions pointed out in the Book. Franken went to the website and called them to double check and then called Bill. Bill put him on hold for 10 minutes then said that it was the Polk and that it was just as prestigious as the Peabody. Franken then joked "so there are 2 "most prestegious" awards in journalism? " He then tells Franken if he wants to go after him with this then go ahead. So Franken did. Then Franken finds out that Inside Edition won the Polk after O'Reilly had left the show. That's not misspeaking, that's pathological. His upbringing, O'Reilly talks about coming from a humble backround but his mom says in the Washington Post during an interview that they went to Florida on vacations frequently, he went to private school and a private university, and that he grew up in a affluent suburb called Westbury, not a blue collar town called Levittown. Franken asked him about it and he claimed he was from the Westbury part of Levittown. They are both seperate villages that are miles away from eachother. O'Reilly claims that he wasn't a registered Republican and that he was assigned that because there was no independent box so he didn't check any off. Franken has a copy of his registration card and sure enough, he checked off Republican. That's not a problem, but why lie about it? Franken says that one thing we know for sure is that O'Reilly is a Lie-o-crat. O'Reilly had the president of NOW on and claimed that 58% of single mom homes are on welfare. She tried to correct him because the actual figure is 14% but O'Reilly just told her "no, that's the fact, you can't dismiss it. . .etc" I don't know what point he was trying to make, but with a disparity of 44%, that can get people to form the wrong opinion on something, millions of people as he has a huge audience. A State Senator from Florida was on once, O'Reilly was defending a Jeb Bush program saying that the black enrollment in Florida state schools was 37%, it was actually 18%. The guy tried to correct him and again, Bill just said his facts are correct. LYING LIAR
Bingo. And that goes for either side IMO. I don't need to read opinion books from either side to form my own opinions about issues. I can think for myself, thank you very much. I don't need political views spoon fed to me like I'm a chimp. I'm not coming down on those of you who choose to read those books, it's just not my cup of tea. One show on Fox I do like is Hannity and Combs. Both of those guys keep eachother in check and both sides are presented evenly. You can decide for yourself where you stand on an issue. I wish there were more shows like that.
The thing is, Franken's book isn't an opinion thing. He doesn't tell you to think this way and why. He just points out lies. Hannity and Colmes? Come on, they could replace Colmes with a puppy and nobody would notice. Crossfire is the real deal.
You have got to be kidding me. Holmes is a p***y. At the very least, you should read Franken's discussion about him. That show irritates me to no end because Holmes is just Hannity's b****.
I can't watch any of the shows with a liberal and conservative voice. I'd rather listen to Rush all day than that. Mainly because, it turns into a contest on who can shout over the other person the loudest. That being said, Crossfire, especially when Novak is on, at least as somewhat intelligent people who stand up for their beliefs on both sides. Colmes, again, is Hannity's little b****.
