well, no, we know precisely the opposite. AQ went to Iraq to escape our invasion of Afghanistan. they were there before we invaded Iraq.
not really, and i think the difference should be abundantly clear to anyone who wants to step outside the game of bbs "gotcha" for an instance. if you don't, them i won't waste time and bandwidth explaining the difference to you, since it's either beyond your ability to comprehend, or your interest. likely both.
LOL. Link? While I've got your ear, why exactly are you so scared to even try to define "victory" in Iraq? I, and others, have asked you dozens of times over the course of years and you've never even tried. It's really hard to take you seriously when you insist we all get behind "winning" and you can't even say what that means.
No, No, please do. I'm semi-intelligent, scored OK on all my standardized tests, and am very interested.
who said aq could only be in one place at any given moment? by your definition, OBL should've died at the WTC.
basso: How do we know when we've won in Iraq if we don't know what winning is? Or do you already know and you're just keeping it a secret?
What are you talking about? You're the one who said: I never said or implied that they could only be in one place. That's your implication. All I'm asking for is a source for your comment and an explanation of who the people in Pakistan are.
Or you are being blind. Clinton said that there has been military progress in Iraq, basso quoted it earlier.
I work in media and PR. I'm not submiting something to the NYTimes for publication, so my credentials are not under review. I recognize their writing as a transparent PR piece - I wonder which firm did it.
And I posted a press release from the Clinton campaign that refuted the "quote" that basso took out of context. Are you blind?
when dems are admitting that there is military progress I believe that validates the writers. In fact, it was other democrats reinforcing their points that gave what they wrote credibility. I don't see any republicans backing up this letter by the GI's.
The answer is yes and that is well documented. He's the Nowhere Man. He just sees what he wants to see. From asking twenty times for evidence of non-Macaca race problems from George Allen (after I and others had posted a ton of them repeatedly) to putting the people who shame his flimsy "arguments" on ignore. But seriously mark, what's your problem with the Hillary quote? NewYorker told you that "basso quoted it earlier." Freaking basso! What more proof do you need?
So now Petraeus is credible and his word is trusted right? So then let's see what he says Sept 15th since you now have faith in what he says. Clearly you are not an optimistic....but my point is when facing a bleak situation such as this, you have to shot for the best because we have to try something. Just giving up is going to leave a terrorist foothold in Iraq and forever damage our credibility as a nation - that's not worth making Bush look bad. There are bigger things than that. We need to try everything we can to make IRaq work - a lot's at stake, and even if the chances are slim, we have to take them. There is now way you can make the statements you have above because you don't know what final impact new tactics will ultimately end with.
Hillary said new tactics were working in Iraq. Later she qualified them, but no one took her out of context. This is just political back-tracking on something she regretted. I think you are blind with hatred for Bush - which is understandable, but once in a while it would be nice if you didn't just call anyone who disagreed with you a liar or stupid. Might want to try thinking that your perspective is just that, one perspective out of many.
That wasn't so hard, was it? All you had to do was quote Jorge (lo, how the mighty have fallen). Why'd it take four years? Oh, right. Jorge didn't give you the answer til today. Since your (er, Jorge's) answers ignore the fact that we are sitting in the middle of a civil war that will definitely continue after our departure -- damning your goals 2 & 3 -- unless we directly address it by means other than shooting everything that moves, maybe you'd like to speak to that? Please tell me you're not going to wait another four years for Jorge to answer that one for you. We all know how you both like to go poof when confronted with reality.
