NYT: 'Jaw-Dropping' Data on Black Male Student Achievement

I find it ironic that in a thread about failing educational achievement you are giving an anti-intellectual rant.

 

There have been cost of living increases followed by pay cuts. That's hardly addressing the problem of low teacher salaries.

Again spending money on education doesn't target specifically black males or cause anything or any other groups that need targeted help.

 

its easy to throw out terms like acocuntability but if you want to address the problem you have to dig deeper than that. I'm sure most black parents in surburban homes want their kids to do well acedemically and pay attention, but it goes beyond that. the parents have to be equipped with what it takes to teach their kids how to learn.

for example, studies show that kids who are read to at a young age have a head start on learning. parents have to know these kinds of things other than just telling their kids to study when they get in school.

 

yes that's what I meant, a lot of parents in surburban homes don't how to get their kids off on the right track, only a few cities have subways

 

no i'm arguing that because you see it on a billboard doesn't mean the problem is solved.

 

didnt read the whole thread and this may be completely off topic but just throwing something out there..
If a certain ethnicity can be more athletically superior to one (size, height, strength, running, leaping ability) it also possible that another ethnicity can superior in intelligence genetically? You see it in monkeys and dogs. Certain breeds dogs are more intelligent than others.
Anyways a controversial topic that has been discussed before...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_Differences_in_Intelligence_(book)

Average IQ of indigenous populations according to Lynn (2006)

 

oh lord, sunsrockets fans this has been debunked in other threads, why do you keep posting it

 

Estimated national average IQ according to book (IQ & Global Inequality)

 

just glad we have such geniuses on clutchfans that if clutchfans debunks something it must be true..

 

my bad, the "if they can jump they must be stupid" hypothesis is rock solid

 

wow way to jump to conclusions and make things up

That was not my point.. it was to demonstrate that we are all different. I don't think any one ethnicity/race or whatever is superior but different. I think there were different conditions that allowed certain traits to excel in certain areas. You really have to look at your definition of being stupid or smart. Today smart generally means you have a high IQ. But having a high IQ just means you excel at a certain measurement test. Does that mean you are superior? going to be more successful?? make more money?? be happier? I don't think so. I think in the context of the study done above certain regions/people just excel at this particular kind of test. Does having the ability to run faster or jump higher make someone superior? (unless you can make it to the NBA and make millions ) Does having a larger brain make someone superior? Nope.. Just saying isn't it possible that certain traits are more prominent in certain gene pools? I don't think that's completely absurd since we are all clearly different.

 

Measuring IQ is a bunch of crap

Rocket River

 

Again I say, this guy has done some pretty good research on this topic. If you are truly interested then just watch his lecture. It covers much of what y'all are debating about, and then some:

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And so on....

 

What do you want? We spend a huge amount of money on education. We have targeted poorer areas with Robin Hood schemes and the results are disappointing. We do not have limitless resources to devote to this.

How about this. You say you want smaller class sizes to help students. How badly do you want them? Enough to give up 10% of your pay to hire more teachers? How about 20%? The ball's in your court.