NYT: 'Jaw-Dropping' Data on Black Male Student Achievement

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfdC_0C2E6o

 

there are negative effects of desegregation in the black community but arguing that education is one is silly. its silly simply based on the fact of the quality of schools blacks were forced to attend pre segregation.

 

Or perhaps, it maintains the image that your dullard child is still special and worthy of your inheritance because they are so much better than the uneducated riff-raff.

 

people have these ideas that blacks came from more stable homes pre welfare and I really don't think statistically that's the case. i think its a nice conservative myth. black women have been working in homes as maids forever. there's a reason, a lot of them had to.

 

School's for fools!

 

Most Asian immigrants came after here after the civil rights act so few relatively few Asians Americans are descended from Railroad Workers.

 

This is a pretty disturbing trend and I doubt there is really one single factor that can be looked at as responsible or addressed that would turn things around. I think more money to things like early childhood education and outreach to families would probably help. At the same time more mentoring and out reach by successful black males, and I'm not talking about sports stars, would probably help.

 

Interesting thread. I am interested in understanding this phenomenon better. I appreciate pgabriel's perspective on this, especially. pgabriel, what do you think would be a possible solution?

 

Most definitely. The more of that the better.

 

That's not it. The problem is that the elitists insist that they know what's best for everybody simply by their mere possession of a credential. It's not that America dislikes achievement, what that they don't like is the condescension of the credentialed class who claim to have a monopoly on intelligence.

 

the other thing I'm seeing being thrown around in this thread is that we've spent 45 years addressing the problem. besides affirmative action, how have we been throwing money at the problem. and affirmative action isn't even "throwing money" at the problem.

if you go to a school in the inner city, and you think money is being thrown at it, I have to question what you think wealth is

 

Baltimore Public is doing better than average for blacks.

 

We have transferred billions upon billions of dollars on education in the last several decades. If you don't think we have, I don't know what to say.

 

Can you define an elitist please? I feel like this merits discussion.

 

Citation Needed.

 

Good Question. One that alot of people do not want to answer.

Do *not* confused better books with better education.
The poorer QUALITY was in the physical/monetary things. Books, Desks, Houses etc.
Not in the instruction that was provided.

Rocket River

 

That money going into education isn't necessarily to address the needs of black males though. Spending money isn't the reason why kids do well or not, but we do need to poor more money into education so that teachers can get a pay increase, pay for more training for teachers, reduce class size, provide students with current technology to meet the demands of the world we live in today, keep schools themselves safe, and able to keep up with the technology etc.

 

What is your comment on the findings of the study and do you have a proposed solution to the issue?