[NYDailyNews] Rockets Offer Brooks And Battier For Rubio

While I do think Rubio can be great and a possible allstar in 3-5 years, I don't know if we need to keep pursuing him. We don't need an allstar in 5 years, we need to win now. Rubio is great for a rebuilding team, where you can send him over to Euro leagues for a year or two then bring him back. But for established teams like us, trying to win now, trading a couple good assets isnt what I would do.

 

If this is true and our Memphis offer was true (as opposed to the Rockets just testing the waters, which is very plausible), then that means Rudy Gay was not our primary pursuit in the Memphis trade proposal. It means the Rockets are very high on Rubio, and perhaps not as high on Brooks and Battier as many of us think.

I don't think that trade makes us better next year, at all, but perhaps down the road it would be a smart move. But again, it's hard to know if the Rockets genuinely wanted that trade to go down, or they were just testing to see how other teams value the assets on the table.

 

Somebody forget to tell the fans that the Rockets have officially given up on "win now" mode? Seriously, if this deal is something the Rockets offered you have to wonder why they are so willing to give up a guy who everyone agrees guards Kobe better than anyone in the league (and we know we have to go through LA to get a Championship) as well as a second year guard who blossomed in the playoffs and single-handedly won games.

Of course, as I typed that I remember the Tmac contract that Morey is going to use to get something big. Maybe he already has a deal in the works to bring in a big name wing player to take Shane's minutes?

 

i dont think there is any doubt that Rubio is the primary goal, with Gay being a throw in simply because of the position he plays and his contract status.

i agree with the rest of your post although I think that one move like this would necessitate a follow up move as well. I dont think Morey would be able to stop there and have a roster he's comfy with going into training camp.

 

No, I was saying that sometimes it is best to let your players grow than to be constantly looking for the next shiny object.

We have 2 weaknesses on this team....

1. A creating/penetrating efficient SG
2 A backup center

If you put Vince Carter on this team it is a contender...as is.....

Flipping your roster every year is not going to get it done...unless you are flipping the ENTIRE roster, including Yao...and going a different direction...

DD

 

Agreed, we are on the same page. Hopefully a trade involving Tracy will meet either point 1, 2, or both. Right now, assuming we resign Ron (which I think most of us believe we will), the only other way to get what we need would be to trade tracy (and fillers).

 

This is your opinion. I disagree (or at least probably with how you define #1).

Was this before or after you traded Aaron Brooks to acquire him? Or did you magically convince the Nets the Brain Cooker was better Courtney Lee?

 

Minny needs a SG, so I suggest this.<p>Not sure what Phoenix is doing, are they dumping salary or still trying to compete for a playoff spot next year. If they are dumping lets agree to take Richardson off their hands but they have to include Barbosa.<p>TMac/Lowry/Landry/Buddinger for Richardson/Barbosa + fillers(to make salary match)<p>Then we flip Barbosa to Minny. Barbosa/Barry/Taylor for Rubio + fillers(Cardinal may be one)<p>Resign Artest. Sign Wafer to 3mil of MLE and Mcdyess to 2mil. Then sign B. Jax for vet min for veteran leadership at PG.<p>Rubio/Brooks/B. Jax<p>Richardson/Wafer/White<p>Artest/Battier<p>Scola/Mcdyess/Hayes/Cardinal<p>Yao/Mcdyess/Dorsey<p>The good thing is that we don't lose any key players other than Landry which I think Mcdyess can fill his shoes, and we gain a legit SG and a backup C that can also play PF(or a PF that can play C, whatever you look at Mcdyess as).

 

For all we know, it could have been rubio and kevin love, or rubio and an expiring contract for battier brooks and and throw-in that hurt minnesota. It could also be Minnesota leaking a false rumor to increase Rubio's trade hype, or if this rumor is true, Minnesota might have turned it down because they want to talk to Rubio first.

 

Personally, I'm glad this trade did not go down. Battier and Brooks was too much for this kid Rubio. Watch once this kid hit the NBA floor against some real competition he stock will drop like a rock. Minn will be sorry!

 

Won't happen.

 

You think Phoenix will nix the deal or Minny?

 

No, it would have been keeping AB, and trading TMac alone for him...if they were interested...or trading Lowry with Tmac....

I know you disagree....I think it was significant we took the Lakers to 7, with a pretty young group of contributors....Brooks and Landry in particular.....and Scola only in his 2nd year...

I think you try to grow upon that success.....and hope Yao stays healthy....

DD

 

This is a stupid move for the Rockets and I hope this is just the New York media making up stories to start rumors. Why would the Rockets give up 2 of our starting, core players for a 18 year old kid who has not proven anything but produce some Youtube highlight clips and look similar to Pistol Pete Maravich. I do not believe Morey is that stupid to do something like that and risk our team chemistry on a player who I believe will become a bust in the NBA. How can a player get so much hype and he averages,in Euroleague, less than 10 pts a game, around 2 assists, and cannot shoot. This is crazy!!!!!!!!

 

Have you thought this through?
Have you understood what you wrote?
Have you seen Rubio? You know that Rubio was all the USA team could talk about this summer. If Rubio is this great now, think of how great he is going to be.
So, you gonna be a scout someday?

 

It is a surprise move.

 

Those trades don't work. T-Mac is making 7 million more than Carter next season. The Nets would have to put more players into the deal.

 

The rox make this move, they might as well trade yao in the process.

 

Anybody else think our interest in Rubio, so much so to give up two starters, is to acquire him for another team? A team that is in financial stress but unwilling to part with their star for nothing. Maybe a big shinny name like Rubio is what that team wants to appease the fans when they trade their franchise player for cap relief. Maybe someone like Nash, or dare I dream Chris Paul?

It just goes against Morey's MO to go for a high risk high reward player like Rubio. Since he has been here, Morey style has always been low risk, high reward. I have a feeling the only reason he is so infatuated with Rubio is for his high perceived value, and to flip him for an allstar.

 

Even if it turns out we flip Tmac, Rubio for Nash, Barbosa? Or Tmac, Rubio, Landry for Chris Paul, Chandler? We are in the worst recession since the 30s, there's no telling what some cash strapped teams would do to save some money, while at the same time saving face(they get Rubio).

In this case would you still be complaining about Carter and Jefferson? Patience is a virtue.