[NYDaily] Rockets "expected" to show interest in Z. Randolph

We'll see, they already have a large payroll and Rondo's contract is one of the increasing types.

With the need for good Centers all around the NBA, someone is going to give him a lot of money.

 

Your point doesn't even make sense because LeBron IS on a top-4 playoff team. And Randolph is nowhere near LeBron's category. Get real man.

So to only make the ASG once (last season) despite averaging close to 20-10 for each of the last 8 years is pretty indicative of the fact that he just isn't a winner. Like I said earlier, he's all stats, no wins. He's in the Corey Maggette-Kevin Martin category.

 

This plus what Deck said.

Randolph is not the answer for any of the Rockets problems, he is not a clear upgrade on what the team already has. I don't get it, hopefully it's all smoke.

 

I don't know if his contract should be what stops the deal, it's the last year of his contract...

 

Randolph's grabbing 5 more rebounds a game this season. For his career, he's averaged 1.1 more rebounds per game more than Scola, and also has missed a lot of games. In the 9 seasons prior to this one, he's played 80 or more games twice. Every other season he's played less than 70 games. There's a lot of ways to measure toughness. Staying on the court is one. Scola is also considered tough around the league, in my opinion, and not because he's never missed a game. He's a very physical guy, but in a different way than Randolph because they have different physiques. I remember when we got Martin (I think it was Martin) he said that Scola was one of those guys he hated to play against, but was glad to play with. Scola's a master of the elbow to the body that the ref doesn't see, the arm across the face that looks unintentional. He can be a load. Having said that, if we could get Randolph for Kevin Martin money, I'd be more intrigued with the idea. I think he's making about 17.3 million this season, not 16. Something tells me he wouldn't go for Kevin Martin money unless, as you suggested, the new CBA forces him into that ballpark, something we can't know now and Morey can't know by the deadline.

Frankly, I can't see trading Scola for him based on value in relation to his contract. I can see trading Scola for a long, athletic, defensive center, something that Randolph simply isn't. Yes, they play a different style and Randolph does take up more space in the low post, but he doesn't block shots, not even as often as Scola does, as I pointed out earlier. That's not what I hope Morey is looking for. If Scola is dealt for an Anthony type of "super star" player, or for that center I want so badly on the team, and we can get Randolph for that Martin money, then you bet.

 

It was Ariza who said that

 

Thank you! I had a feeling I might have gotten the source wrong.

 

FYI, I was never impressed with Bosh and Brook Lopez and always felt those two were overrated on this board. Pau Gasol leading Memphis to the playoffs isn't really the same as what Z-Bo is doing...Pau Gasol had Shane "Teflon don" Battier and Mighty Mouse as his 2nd best players. Z-Bo is rolling around with a solid young defensive C in Marc Gasol as well as a cadre of top 10 lottery picks (Gay, Mayo, Conley JR).

Zach Randolph's arrival coencided with the growth of Marc Gasol, Rudy Gay and Conley JR. I guess a much better question would why did they only go 40-42 when he got there, and only on pace to be a 0.500-ish team this year? He's supposed to be a 20-10 player in his prime surrounded by solid lottery picks. Shouldn't they be on par with the Thunder or better than Portland at least? Hell the Clips might end up with a better record than them and they only have Griffin, Gordan, De Andre Jordan and chump change.

LTF, which hold more weight? The last two years of play? Or his entire playing history prior to the last two years? ZR's skills have never been in question, everybody agrees he has legit all star talent and should have been a franchise player right now if he had not been a headcase. But he HAS been a headcase, and he has been a cancer for most of his career. There's more to b-ball than just using stats, the same stats which are saying Corey Maggette is an under-the-radar all star worthy player or that Mo Williams is a very good pg are the same stats that are saying Z-Bo is an allstar.

Z-Bo is playing nice now, but he also expressed repeatedly that he expects 16M a year type of money for his production. If he receives say 12M a year for his services would he consider that enough? Or we pout Bonzi Wells style and go AWOL on the team right after he signs his contract? This is why Scola is a much better player than Z-Bo, at least with him you know what you're gonna get. With someone like Z-Bo, you're not sure if you're getting a steal or a rip-off until the end of the contract. If all you look at is upside, sure Z-bo would be a nice player to have. However ask Portland and NY if getting Z-bo was worth it and you'll have a different answer.

 

To me, Zach Randolph is untouchable
He is almost unstoppable like LaMarcus Alridge now

 

He may be 'untouchable' but we have the assets to remove that label. Remain optimistic because i'm backing Daryl on this one. If he can turn a beat up T-mac into our best scorer/player in Kevin Martin, Jordan Hill and Jeffries plus a draft pick or so I mean what's in store for us this year?

NBA
where anything's possible...

 

I've always liked Randolphs game on the block. I've said years ago, he's a top 5 scorer on the blks. He's a better player than scola, no doubt and deckard does have a point about him being 7-8m more of a player. I will say this, people were wondering if david lee and his 20-10 was the same or better than amare and his 27-9. Well, its been debated over and over again that all points arent created equal.

Amare has shown in new york that his impact on the game is greater than David lee. I can also say that randolph and his impact is greater than scola.I'm not saying its 7m more, but its more.I highly doubt that with the grizz so close to the playoffs they will give randolph up for scola. I think they will give up gasol before randolph, but he will have to come down on his price tag. Maybe memphis is scared and they are willing to do a yao-scola for randolph-thabeet. I doubt it, but it would give them a cheaper alternative and give them a chance to keep gasol.

 

1. Randolph isn't a center. He's only 6'9" and he's not athletic enough to guard taller centers in the low post.

2. One of the reasons why he hasn't been able to carry a team to this point in his career is that he's selfish with the basketball. He averages 1 assist per game and as a result, doesn't fit into the flow of the offense. He's pretty much been this way his whole career.

 

We need a shotblocking center and not a so-so PF with a history of loosing at NBA level.

The fact that we are being thrown in this discussion says a lot about how lost our management is.

It would have been nice to see this team play with a defensive center for a full year, yet this management makes it very hard for the coach and the players to compete fairly with other rosters in the league, given that they are 20 millons down in payroll for the third consecutive year.

 

Adelman is only trying to outscore opponents. Playing ZBO at center would help.

 

Rondo + Perkins is the future of the Celtics. I really don't see the Celtics lose an awesome championship opportunity to save a few million. If they gave Perkins no offer, then they'd be really showing they are not interested in the championship--which I HUGELY doubt.

I say we make a run at Nene. I don't see anyone else too realistic unless we take on Kaman.

 

New York is just still pissed that we raped them last year in that trade, so they are just making bogus rumors.

 

This team needs a legitimate CENTER and not another pf.

 

hopefully this is just a smokescreen to rape the grizz ....thabeet / mayo maybe?