they arent censoring anyone.....THE PROTESTERS ARE ALLOWED TO PROTEST....THEY JUST CANT DO IT ALL THE WAY DOWN 1ST AVENUE...why is this so hard to understand? You people act like they are not letting the protest take place
I understand that. I just think that if it was a pro-war rally, there wouldn't be any restrictions. I believe that the limitations on where they can protest is directly related to the content of the protest.
Touche. Doesn't change my mind about the reason Bloomberg limited (that better, NJ?) the scope of the protest.
NJRocket, in this country political speech is the most protected. You are right that in a way it is apples and oranges. The demo should be more protected than the St. Patty's day parade.
Um, this was posted once already, but apparently has not been read by most. Notice how it says BLANKET POLICY and ALL PROTEST MARCHES, not just those the mayor disagrees with.
Actually a terrorist attack on these hippies would probably help the war movement. I say let 'em march.
Thank you, I did read that, and it doesn't make me feel any better. Protest is at the very heart of this nation. I don't like where we're going if we start limiting the scope of these protests. I wonder how many non-anti-war protests there have been.
With all of the security concerns, I fully support the decision. The court didn't say the protestors could not congregrate, it said they could not congregate in that specific location. If it is so important of a cause, could they not find another location in the area to conduct their protest? I, too, support American citizens' right to protest when they want their voice heard, but I also think the security concerns are a just reason to move the protest elsewhere. And here was your original complaint - it wasn't that they weren't allowed to protest, it was that they weren't allowed because they disagreed with the mayor. I posted my reply to refute your assertion.
Throwing out verbiage like: dictatorship next? third world dictatorship type stuff In fact you risk imprisonment if you protest against the governments actions. (Care to elaborate on this, VOR?) serves what purpose, exactly? I can't believe some of you are making such a big deal out of this. Thanks for bringing a little common sense into the discussion, hammer.
elaborate, sure there is a law against protesting. If you protest you break a law. Breaking a law leads to going to prison. thus you risk getting cought protesting and therefore going to to prison for protesting the governments actions. furthermore: As far as the law and it being towards all protests, and rallies. well how many rallies and protests are pro government?? this law/ordinance whatever was put in place knowing full well that we were heading towards a prolongued armed conflict with Afganistan and the "axis of evil" I was as a child at an anti nuke protest. It was at Shoram nucular power plant. Some idiots jumped the fence(breaking and entering) they went to jail. Everyone else just protested against the powerplant. That plant has never operated. Likely due to those protests. The people spoke and the government listened. If the town of Brookhaven made a law prohibiting protests within town limits then everyone would have been arrested. The people make up this nation, not the politicians. This war is not particularily popular, so the fear is that a great deal of people could easily turn out for this in Manhattan. Hell if 25% are opposed to war that makes 2 million potential marchers. Hell if 99% of NYC is apathetic 80,000 could still fill the streets. the Govt simply does not that message getting out on the news
I dont think there is. There may be a law that says you cannot protest without a permit or protest in a specific area but I dont think its illegal in general.
cite me to the law you're talking about...there is a constitutional right to peaceful assembly in the first amendment and the right of free speech. no law can be made abridging that right...they can qualify the right with time and place restrictions...but the government can't say you absolutely can not protest.
He could have been to NYC, hell I live here and I've yet to see army vehicles or machine guns since just after 9/11. Maybe near bridges and tunnels, but I still haven't seen any on all my trips to LaGuardia. NYC and bridges are apples and oranges. And the traffic issue-- the parade is scheduled for a Saturday. Traffic isn't bad on 1st Ave on Saturdays. I don't protest the war, but these traffic and logistics issues are bull****. Bloomberg won't be re-elected.
Protesting is perfectly legal. Protesting the policies of the Bush Administration, however, will get you arrested, thrown in jail, convicted and sent to Gitmo, all in the same day!
Protesting is perfectly legal. However, if you have a large scale protest, it is illegal if you don't get a permit. I agree with this as the police need to be informed to keep things ordely. Protesting after the permit has been denied is illegal and you can be arrested for doing so.
I said that the army vehicles were near the bridges and tunnels (entrances and exits to the city)...as far as machine guns, I guess you dont go anywhere near Wall St or pass by temples, hotels and the like on the way to work etc. true...Saturday is less congested...but its far from a quiet avenue.
