1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

NY Times: Slim Shady, Watch It: Asian Rapper's Got It

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by SoSoDef76, Aug 12, 2003.

  1. SoSoDef76

    SoSoDef76 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2002
    Messages:
    655
    Likes Received:
    20
    Since there was a hip-hop post, I thought I'd post this article about a Chinese rapper making the scene -- Jin. I remember watching him battle on 106 and Park and being amazed. I think he can do great things and open new doors, especially for Asians in the entertainment industry. On his webpage he even sports the retro Astros and Rockets jerseys: http://www.holla-front.com/ :)

    ---
    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/12/arts/music/12JIN.html?ex=1061663482&ei=1&en=5400ce87a28a5cd3
    ---

    Slim Shady, Watch It: Asian Rapper's Got It
    By ERIN CHAN


    hat Chinese rapper guy wants to make something clear. He's Jin, not "that Chinese rapper guy." His name has dropped all over the place, well before his album will.

    It's the route of the National Basketball Association's top draft pick, 18-year-old LeBron James, of the R&B singer Ashanti and of the movie "Better Luck Tomorrow": the path in which the athlete, the singer or the film generates a fan base well before he plays in the N.B.A., she releases an album or the movie has its premiere. For Jin it has meant a buzz among Asian-American and underground hip-hop fans that has extended to publications like Rolling Stone, which singled him out this year as one of 10 artists to look for in "the next wave."

    The attention so far has revolved around Jin's being a Chinese-American rapper, but the excitement has grown as he has won fans for his inventive lyrics, a style resembling a less angry Eminem. Jin has appeared alongside the rap star Ludacris in this summer's film "2 Fast 2 Furious." And he has already spent part of his summer on MTV's "You Hear It First" tour in New York, Washington, Philadelphia and Boston. He holds a place in Black Entertainment Television's "Freestyle Friday" Hall of Fame for going undefeated seven straight weeks in the network's "106 & Park: Top 10 Live" rap battles, in which the best barbs and rudest rhymes often win in spontaneous, head-to-head duels. All this and Jin's debut album — "The Rest Is History" — on Ruff Ryders Records/Virgin Records does not even drop into stores until Oct. 28.

    Jin, 21, is not a 50 Cent. He does not rap about getting shot, going to jail or doing drugs. Jin does rhyme about interracial dating, about being compared to Eminem, about Chinatown and about being Chinese-American.

    "I am proudly Chinese," said this rapper from Elmhurst, Queens, born Jin Au-yeung. "I'll embrace it but never exploit it. During a show, I might say, `So where my Asians at?' But I'll never go out there with a sword, you know what I'm saying?"

    Along with a shadow of a mustache, a buzz cut and the requisite baggy pants of hip-hop, Jin wears a diamond-studded, platinum chain with the letter R around his neck. It stands for Ruff Ryders, the label Jin signed with during his 7-0 run on BET. The label has gained recognition for turning out hip-hop stars DMX, Eve and Jadakiss. Jin still seems bewildered by some celebrity trappings — custom-made racing outfits and cooing models at photo shoots — but has no problem playing up his boyish flirtatiousness or occasionally referring to himself in the third person. He savors the attention but says he does not crave it.

    In his lyrics Jin talks unabashedly about his Asian ethnicity, sometimes in self-defense but more often because he wants to bolster the idea of an Asian-American rapper. In last year's battles on BET's "106 & Park," rival rappers most frequently hurled ethnic insults at Jin: "I'm a star/He just a rookie/Leave rap alone and keep making fortune cookies."

    But Jin turned those taunts into his own disses: "You wanna say I'm Chinese/Sonny here's a reminder/ Check your Timbs/They probably say made in China," he raps, referring to Timberland shoes. And: "Yeah, I'm Chinese/Now you understand it/I'm the reason that his little sister's eyes are slanted/If you make one joke about rice or karate/ N.Y.P.D. be in Chinatown searching for your body."

    But as one of the most visible Asian-American rappers, is he concerned about how graphic his lyrics can come across? Not really. "I'm a pervert," he said. "I'm a jerk. You can put that in print. There's many sides to Jin. I'm also intelligent. I'm also well spoken. And that's beyond hip-hop. That's me, as a person."

    Sometimes Jin weaves Chinese-American history into his lyrics to emphasize ethnic pride. At a recent performance at B. B. King Blues Club and Grill in Times Square, he evoked whoops from a multiethnic crowd with "Learn Chinese," a song on his forthcoming album. Over strains of Cantonese, which he speaks fluently, Jin rapped: "Every time they harass me, I wanna explode/We should ride the train for free/We built the railroads."

    To entice "2 Fast 2 Furious" fans and the Asian-American youth market, Ruff Ryders has latched onto aspects of pop culture that emphasize Jin's ethnicity, including import show cars and custom-made baggy clothes that incorporate scenes from Chinese paintings.

    Joaquin Dean, one of three siblings who run Ruff Ryders, said that import-car culture incorporated all walks of life even though Jin's manager, Kamel Pratt, acknowledged that the cars, among them retooled Hondas and Mitsubishis, appealed to Asian-American youth. Asked about the custom-made clothing, Mr. Dean replied that Jin has got to represent his culture. Pausing, Mr. Dean added: "He's rare. He's not just a gimmick rapper. He has true talent."

    The question is whether integrating Jin's ethnicity into the promotion of his music will help sell albums. "It makes me happy that he's not ashamed to talk about being Asian-American," said Ben Chan, a hip-hop fan from Brooklyn at a recent "You Hear It First" concert. "But it will be interesting to see what happens after the novelty wears off."

    It seems that Jin, who has often insisted that he does not want to overuse his race, is just as eager to find out. After growing up in Miami and graduating from North Miami Beach Senior High School, he decided to pursue a record deal instead of a college degree. Two years ago he moved to New York with his parents, so they could be closer to his grandparents in Chinatown after Sept. 11. He started out hawking self-recorded CD's outside Fat Beats, a music store in Greenwich Village.

    One day, while freestyle rapping in front of the shop, Jin met Mr. Pratt, who became Jin's manager and promptly organized his own career around Jin's. Mr. Pratt founded Crafty Plugz, a management company, with Jin as its sole client. With Mr. Pratt's assistance, Jin auditioned for "106 & Park," during which Ruff Ryders brought him into its group of nine artists.

    At a recent photo session for his album, Jin's energy radiated, even after 14 hours of work. He smiled, revealing teeth as white and straight as those on a Colgate commercial while he bounded from a wardrobe of clothes to a table of snacks to a book of Polaroid pictures from the shoot.

    He held up an especially sexy shot of himself in front of a drop-top gold Honda. Amused, he said, "This kid looks like a real star."
     
  2. SLA

    SLA Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2002
    Messages:
    3,021
    Likes Received:
    0
    Nice nice.....his lyrics are funny. I thought he was from Florida..well I guess I'll support him...he sounds like Eminem.

    And he's wearing some nice Houston stuff on the front page of his site.

    I don't think he will be as successful as the big rappers though.
     
  3. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2002
    Messages:
    35,760
    Likes Received:
    7,844
    Man, this thread has oh so much YoYao photoshop potential...
     
  4. countingcrow

    countingcrow Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2000
    Messages:
    2,582
    Likes Received:
    25
    This guy is pretty good. I just downloaded some of his stuff from Kazaa.

    I am surprised.
     
  5. Dr of Dunk

    Dr of Dunk Clutch Crew

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 1999
    Messages:
    45,276
    Likes Received:
    31,318
    Listened to it... more of the same... blah... played out like all the stupid YoYao stuff on the bbs. Hip-hop/rap needs an injection of something different...
     
  6. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2002
    Messages:
    35,760
    Likes Received:
    7,844
    [rant]No kidding! All these hip hop acts remind me of the hair bands of the 80's. They're just clones of one another. They have nothing new to say. They all rap, look, talk and act the exact same way. It's all so cliched. All the videos look exactly the same, nothing stands out. Nothing original out there besides Missy Elliott and maybe Busta. No "innovators", but plenty of imitators.

    Hip hop needs another Chuck D.[/rant]
     
  7. MoBalls

    MoBalls Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2002
    Messages:
    4,419
    Likes Received:
    100
    so true......Do all rap artist use the same mansion w/the same pool and in the back yard to shoot their videos? oh and the same hoochies?
     
  8. Kam

    Kam Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2002
    Messages:
    30,476
    Likes Received:
    1,322
    Fat Joe ate Ja Rule.


    That is why we never hear from Ja Rule.
     
  9. BALLhog 247 365

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2002
    Messages:
    1,064
    Likes Received:
    268
    also watch out for "guo"
     
  10. moestavern19

    moestavern19 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 1999
    Messages:
    39,003
    Likes Received:
    3,638
    I wish someone would get rid of the cookie monster. Seriously though, Missy Elliot is horrid, I cannot believe some of you think she is the best rapper out there. She may be creative, but her voice and style annoy the living **** out of me. Rap needs less Jay-Z and 50 Cent, these artists are all just carbon copies of themselves.

    BTW - Check out Bubba Sparxxx's new single "Deliverance". Very different style, sounds really refreshing.
     
  11. SLA

    SLA Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2002
    Messages:
    3,021
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yeah.....Deliverance is a great song...with a nice country flavor.
     
  12. Dr of Dunk

    Dr of Dunk Clutch Crew

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 1999
    Messages:
    45,276
    Likes Received:
    31,318
    Yeah, that's what all the homeboys want in their raps... nice country flavor.

    :) j/k... I actually like Bubba.
     
  13. BmwM3

    BmwM3 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    Messages:
    3,896
    Likes Received:
    255
    Haha Guo, where'd you here about him? He set back his album for Jan. or Feb. release next year.I'm ready for his album and Jin's album. Single coming out soon, "Learn Chinese," and album coming out on Oct. 7th.

    Edit: Jin's album might be delayed again.I hope not.
     
    #13 BmwM3, Aug 12, 2003
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2003
  14. R0ckets03

    R0ckets03 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 1999
    Messages:
    16,326
    Likes Received:
    2,041
    I used to love rap/hip hop. But now it seems every single song is about hoes and being bling bling.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now