NY Times: Rockets preparing to offer Martin and Knicks draft picks for Carmelo

Not if your goal is a championship. LA didn't do it when they got Gasol. Boston didn't do it when they got Garnett. Hell, Miami didn't do it when they got Shaq (they traded a young Odom who was not a star at the time nor did he ever turn out to be).

Kevin Martin needs to be a piece, star #2 in our trifecta. He needs NOT to be the piece that gets traded away. He's our Ray Allen.

 

Oh, I see, so since getting T-Mac didn't work, we should never seek a star player again. Got it.

And you're right, we KNOW the current multiple pieces fit for about 50 wins and no title. We're after a title, are we not? Maybe it's time for some new pieces. K-Mart is a new piece, but he's no Melo.

I still haven't seen DD - or any sane people, for that matter - prove to me that K-Mart gives you "the same production" as Melo. I've seen a lot of people assert it - just as I can assert that I am the reincarnation of Abraham Lincoln - but no proof, no statistics. Just a lot of chest-beating.

Well, go ahead and beat your chest another 70,000 times. It doesn't prove your ludicrous assertions.

The breakdown of FG pct, FT attempts per game, and PPG provided by someone (forget his name just now, but shouts out to him!) shatter every illusion about K-Mart being more efficient than Melo.

It may not be a great idea to trade K-Mart in order to get Melo, but let's not delude ourselves into thinking that K-Mart is as good.

 

IMHO if, actually WHEN, Nugs deal Melo they will deal C-Bill, as well. They'll go young, and (relatively) cheap.

Melo IS Cavsing the Nugs, I strongly suggest. I also strongly suggest that when his uni is donned it'll be on Donnie Walsh' Knixies.

 

Thank you for this. There's a time for civility, but there's also a time to call people out. This was the time to call people out, and you did it.

Yes, we all have opinions, but if someone's opinion is that Aaron Brooks is better than Michael Jordan ever was, he deserves to be called an idiot.

 

Who's our #1?

 

The funny thing with Gasol is that Memphis probably came out ahead when it was all said and done. (Marc turned out well, and the space was used for Zach), it worked for both teams really (as they were in vastly different cap and building modes), which is an issue here.

 

Straight up deal (Martin with a filler) for Melo, why not? But Martin + Hill + picks for Melo? Maybe? But i say no. We'd improve but still not enough to be a championship squad. Plus we lose our assets/future picks.

 

I have a feeling we will get him.....would love to see him on our team....I'm sick of injury prone guys...Kevin Martin seems to be one of them....other than Anthony's demeanor I think the trade would be amazing for the Rockets.

 

How do you DM is really after Melo? All these are nothing but speculation. Until DM officially announces a get Melo campaign I'm not riding the Melo wagon.

 

I think the darkhorse in all of this is the Blazers.

They could offer up Oden, Miller, Batum and Fernandez for Melo.

This would be one awesome lineup, and as a Rockets fan, will be scared to death to face in the playoffs.

Bayless/Williams
Roy/Matthews
Carmelo/Babbit
Aldridge/Cunningham
Camby/Pryzbilla

Carmelo can reunite with his buddy Camby.

 

That big three of Melo-Roy-Aldridge would be insane.

 

Surely you are aware that the team is built around Yao Ming and he is the star of the Rockets. Eventhough he is likely to be only the star for 24 mins a game.

 

Seriously, Greg Oden? 2 years in the NBA, 2 Major injuries.

 

This is a different team, different situation. Our other starters are not Perkins+Rondo (top defensive players), we have Scola&Brooks. Martin+Melo would be good having a defensive-pure PG next to them, but understand that Brooks+Martin+Melo is not possible if you want to reach the necessary defensive level of a contender. Not just the defense, also the offensive roles, with Brooks-Martin-Melo-Scola-Yao you're basically playing with 5 scorers at a time. A good balanced team usually thinks there's life outside the scoring.

 

Peyton Manning is so much better than Adrian Peterson!

Compare positions to positions. Lets see what SF's are better than Melo. Lebron, Durant then...... uh..... hmm .. let me think of ways I can avoid answering Carmelo Anthony.....


Face it dude, Carmelo is one of the best pure scorers in this league bar none.

 

Don't agree, Memphis hasn't even made it to the playoffs and LA has been to the finals 3 straight years largely because of the Gasol deal. Wallace clearly changed the balance of power in the west by doing that trade and he violated a cardinal rule by trading Gasol to a conference rival.

Only thing I like about Miami signing the big 3 is they have a team that can kick some Laker ass.

 

Well, with all the speculation that they want Favors, I think the young talent that they want is a big.

Realistically, you would take a gamble on Oden. Plus you get one of the more underrated SF's in the league in Batum who could replace Melo. Also you get Miller, which makes Billups expendable. Rudy is a throw in, but like Miller, makes JR Smith expendable.

The Nuggets could then package Billups and Smith with Martin at the deadline for a pretty decent pickup.

 

Who is the lead in that offer - Oden? That offer fails there off the bat - anyone who would consider Oden, given injury history and on-play factors, as the primary piece of a Carmelo deal is smoking something serious. It majorly fails compared to offers centered around Kevin Martin and Derrick Favors.

Miller is practically useless to Denver - aging, veteran PG on a non-contending team. They already have one in Billups, as well. Batum and Fernandez are OK young prospects, but the Rockets could easily top that between Budinger, Patterson, Hill, Taylor, etc. They also lack major draft pick assets.

I don't see Portland as a major player here.

 

Blazers don't have 1st round picks. Period. Come on man, there's a random fantasy thread. Just bring your Blazers fantasy team there.

 

because there is such a market for melo.. i think the talent we give up for him will ultimately negate the benefits of having him on the team

dont get me wrong ... i think melo will help us a lot .. i just dont know if he will help us enough to make us a championship contender.. and if he does not do that then id rather keep our flexibility and wait for a desperate team to come along and give us their superstar

i can see indiana, or philli doing that if they start to sputter and maybe we can keep kmart and only give up some picks and some expiring contracts/TE