[NY Times] China Fans Ask, Will Yao Ming's Baby Be American?

wizkid83 · Mar 3, 2010

MD_in_Training said:

If Yao had a boy, people might care more, since you can only play for the country you were born in for the Olympics.
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WRONG

SergioValencia · Mar 3, 2010

tinman said:

I just hope Yao doesn't name her Tracie.
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LMAO...

Tiger23 · Mar 3, 2010

mayb Yao will want the child to be born here so she wont be handcuffed to do watever she chooses by the communist gov't.. i say that would be a smart move by Yao.. hmmm let me think, would I want my kid to be under a democracy or a communist govt? hmm i think its a no brainer

tomjc · Mar 3, 2010

Tiger23 said:

mayb Yao will want the child to be born here so she wont be handcuffed to do watever she chooses by the communist gov't.. i say that would be a smart move by Yao.. hmmm let me think, would I want my kid to be under a democracy or a communist govt? hmm i think its a no brainer
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See post #74 of page 4.

tomjc · Mar 3, 2010

tomjc said:

See post #74 of page 4.
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Edited: Post #72

Trip · Mar 3, 2010

Tiger23 said:

mayb Yao will want the child to be born here so she wont be handcuffed to do watever she chooses by the communist gov't.. i say that would be a smart move by Yao.. hmmm let me think, would I want my kid to be under a democracy or a communist govt? hmm i think its a no brainer
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She'll be the daughter of the richest Chinese athlete. I don't think she will be restricted in any way. If she does grow up in China she'll likely attend International School and enjoy the best of everything. Her standard of living will be no worse than it will be in the States. The Chinese students you see on Western university campuses today are mostly children of wealthy Chinese. You don't see the Chinese government restricting them.

worzel gummidge · Mar 3, 2010

Tiger23 said:

mayb Yao will want the child to be born here so she wont be handcuffed to do watever she chooses by the communist gov't.. i say that would be a smart move by Yao.. hmmm let me think, would I want my kid to be under a democracy or a communist govt? hmm i think its a no brainer
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What would you choose? A hospital in China feeding babies with chinese milk or any other place

bullardfan · Mar 3, 2010

She will be a "dual citizen". not in the true sense tho. it will prolly be either chinese passport/permanent US resident or vice versa. either way, she will be able to come and go as she pleases. as far as playing on some sort of national team... let's wait til she can at least play games. Yao's daughters will be just as important as his sons. b/c if the yao gene is present every other generation, then his daughter's children will be the ones everyone is clamoring for.

Samurai Jack · Mar 3, 2010

I understand how Yao feels about his country. I have followed him before the draft, read his book, etc. etc.

How much you wanna bet that the baby is born in the states?

gotoloveit2 · Mar 3, 2010

tinman said:

Look at Rod Stewart's son, he can't sing.
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Just like his father.

ktkt · Mar 3, 2010

No ! must be chinese

tiger0330 · Mar 3, 2010

Samurai Jack said:

I understand how Yao feels about his country. I have followed him before the draft, read his book, etc. etc.

How much you wanna bet that the baby is born in the states?
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You may be right. I think his silence says a lot in the below article, I think he wouldn't be so tight lipped if he were going to have the baby in China.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...J02qm8vLYF?slug=ap-yao-baby&prov=ap&type=lgns

SuperBeeKay · Mar 3, 2010

DaDakota said:

This is a private matter for Yao and his wife.

Some of the Chinese fans need to mind their own stinking business.

DD
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Lol what? He's a national hero. Why should they not be allowed to care?

Yao4REAL · Mar 3, 2010

How about just delivery the baby on an airplane...so nobody can claim what country she's born..

CometsWin · Mar 3, 2010

tomjc said:

First of all where did you hear it from if you've heard this for years. And which specific tv program are you referring to, I would love to see what they are talking about from their perspective and watch this program you have watched. And also, what specific laws are you referring to? Laws which somehow exclude women from certain rights that men have? In jobs? Income? Dresswear?

China has very traditional values and follows the concept of the tight family unit. Confucian philosophy states that every member of the family has their role and need to be respected because without one role, the unit falls apart. This is the same philosophy that the Japanese have in ie. manufacturing.

There can be an argument made that less emphasis is placed on other people outside of your family and immediate friends, as Chinese people tend to look after the interests of their own family before others. There may be individuals who prefer to pass on their family's name via male heir, but there is no evidence of the "useless"ness of women in Chinese culture that is confusing to me what you are saying. It is the usefulness of Chinese women (and Chinese men) which keep the family unit together, which is why the divorce rate tends to be lower than in other countries due to this fact. This is also why the process of courtship is more extensive and elaborate than other countries as well.
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He was probably referring to the gender imbalance in China.

119 boys born per 100 girls. Rises to 130 boys per 100 girls in some rural areas

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8451289.stm

devilsdandruff · Mar 3, 2010

here's some more from ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4961256

BEIJING -- Chinese basketball fans want to know -- will Yao Ming's baby be an American?

The Houston Rockets center, who is sidelined this season with a broken left foot, recently returned to the United States with wife Ye Li. That prompted speculation among his followers that the baby girl due this summer could be born in America.

Yao's personal life is closely followed by his many fans at home, from his 2007 Shanghai wedding to the former basketball player to reports last month the couple is expecting a baby girl in July.

Yao said before the Rockets' game on Wednesday night that where the baby is born is a "private" matter.

"We just need some space," he said. "It's just between me and my wife."

He said he appreciated the positive feedback shown by his fans.

"We're excited about a new member of the family," he said. "We appreciate everyone who has given us good wishes. I really want to say thanks for that. It's a good thing for us."

Yao's baby would be an American citizen if born in the U.S. She also could claim Chinese citizenship as the child of Chinese nationals. However, Chinese law does not recognize dual citizenship.

A few say it would be a betrayal of China, not to mention the Chinese basketball team could be denied a future basketball star. But most say they support Yao and don't care which country claims the baby.

"Yao Ming is an individual, not a political tool," said one comment on popular basketball Web site Hoop China. "He has the right to choose where his child is born and what kinds of medical care and education will be available to her. His child's citizenship has nothing to do with loyalty."

"Only an idiot would pass up American citizenship," said another fan on online portal sina.com, underscoring the common belief in China that life overseas is preferable.

Yao and his camp have been tightlipped on the pregnancy and have not issued any public statements on the matter. It was not clear if Yao and his wife were indeed planning to have the baby in the U.S. or how they would handle any citizenship issues.

A number of Chinese celebrities have been criticized for becoming naturalized citizens of other countries. Chinese are subject to stringent visa requirements and some of the celebrities argued it was easier to travel internationally with passports from countries such as Singapore or the U.S.

Baby Yao has captured the imagination of fans in China. They wonder about her potential basketball skills with a 7-foot-6 father and 6-foot-2 mother, who was a center for China.

Scientists have predicted the girl will grow up to be the size of her mother, state media has reported.
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Pulp · Mar 3, 2010

I am Chinese and I don't give a rat ass

real_egal · Mar 3, 2010

tiger0330 said:

Thats not true, my wife was flying right up until a month before she delivered. Our doctor said it was fine.
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Doctors might be fine with it, but airlines are not any more. Simply because A. there is too much risk/crisis for them to deal with if the baby decides to come to the world during the flight. B. It was reported that the born place/citizenship for the baby could lead to dispute/controversy - which part of the air is the baby born.

I think airlines now are restricting pregnant women with close due date to get on the plane, especially international flights.

YaodaMing · Mar 4, 2010

First yao examined his baby's gender illegally,now this?
Is it that bad that being a chinese?

redwhiteone · Mar 4, 2010

This is a legal question which is a certain conflict of laws between USA and China. If the child is born in the US, how should the US handle this? Will the citizenship of the child be dependent on the place where she was born or the citizenship of her parents (esp. the father)?. Consult first US law if ever the child will be born there. If not, consult the law of the place where she will be born. If in China, then we will have no problem

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