[NY Post] Cornel West says Biden committed ‘crime against humanity’ against black Americans

The reform and prison/crime bills of the early 90’s had a lot of support from the black community. The crime rates were at an all time high and most the VICTIMS were black.

The reform did exactly what it set out to do, it rapidly decreased crime. I was a teenager in the 90’s. I remember how violent it was and remember how it became safer.

Radical revisionist leftists and naive democrats wanting to left many of those incarcerated for 20+ years and wanting radical bail reform are fools.

Yes, we need SOME reforms - we don’t need private prisons. We don’t need to send non violent offenders to jail in all cases - but what they did in San Francisco with no bail and Harris County is absurd.

 

Height of crack epidemic.

 

Thank goodness we got fentanyl now

 

You know who Edmund Burke is?

He's Irish and spoke against England spending money helping alleviating the results of a famine in Ireland that English colonialism caused.

He's also at the time was one of Ireland's most wealthy landlords.

Ya I can see a select hierarchal class of Black folks supporting those tough on crime bills

 

Tough on crime never solves crime. Material conditions usually reflect the effects on crime. Crime drops in the 90s are more associated with the removal of lead in the air than any law enforcement harshness.

 

What a utter loser. Guy bootlicks putin and spins Russian propoganda then blames biden for society's fault. ****ing grifting loser

 

Yeah let's not magically forget that the entire black congressional caucus fully supported the bill and actually wanted it to be harsher. West is such a effin grifter

 

Kids killing each other over crack sales was a very specific problem. As Nook wrote, the people in the neighborhoods specifically affected supported more police which was the biggest part of the crime bill.

A lot of the decrease in crime from that era is due to decrease in crack usage. I do agree that locking up people longer was not effective but the violence associated with crack certainly warranted more law enforcement

 

Cocaine is much less bulkier than mar1juana and therefore it is easier to smuggle cocaine and a small amount is more profitable for criminal groups. Drug abuse strategy that places almost all the focus and money on prohibition works less well. Now many doses of fentanyl can be put in a thin letter envelope which will make the prohibition essentially the main approach even less likely to succeed.

This is not to say that claiming the bulk of the fentanyl comes from immigrants crossing the Mexican border is not what is thought to be a winning talking point for GOP politicos.

 

Also, let's suppose a certain group was obsessed with Hunter Biden like we've seen. Let's then suppose they wanted to create a scandal. They would make sure to avoid cameras and not leave prints on the baggie. This is exactly why they've said they can't tell who the baggie belonged to.

Now, there's zero evidence that is what happened which matches the exact same amount of evidence that it belonged to Hunter.

Also, if it did belong to Hunter, WHO CARES?

 

I remember the Three Strikes Law in California during the 90s. It was also around the time real estate prices bottomed out over a span of 5-7 years.

The pendulum has swung far left on police reform/defunding and criminalizing petty theft, but it could very well swing the other way once more people get fed up over feeling safe or decent in their own neighborhoods.

Cornel better have a good answer for that other than Biden not Woke Enough

 

Just out of curiosity, what did Cornel have to say around '93/4/5etc? wrt to the federal crime bills and such?

 

Everyone knows how Biden has moved through the times along with public sentiment typically at a very rational level. Based on how they voted in the primaries in 2020 it’s pretty obvious the overwhelming majority of African American Democratic voters do not side with West.

Bernie’s camp (which has a much more effective platform) made this case in the primaries on the prime time debates… and Biden went on to crush Super Tuesday to win the nomination.

If West really cared about rectifying our situation with African Americans and prison reform, he’d be less concerned about stroking his ego with a (Putin funded) Green Party nomination and would instead run for office at a lower level or at least involve himself in activism the way Rev Sharpton and Barber have done for years.

This comes off so cheap and pathetic. It makes everything he says less about the topic at hand, and more about how he’s trying to help topple Democracy in the US to help elect Trump… a guy who recently tried to overturn it to help himself.

 

Ireland also had many poorer Irish who supported the UK. That’s why there’s six counties that are still part of the UK.

This has been discussed before in the “Defund the Police” threads there are many poorer black people who are for LE. As noted previously residents of the most poor and most black neighborhood in Minneapolis had a lawsuit against the city over lack of policing in that neighborhood.

 

I'm sure you can find any examples of people fighting against their own interests. A poor Irish person defending the British landlord system of owning property they don't even live in while the Irish peasants farm their land and work it yet starve to death because they can't produce their own food and just serve the profit motives of the landlord who lives in another country is pretty sad. I'm sure a few existed but that is very sad. That makes me feel sad. I hope it makes you feel sad.

And I'm sure the disproportionate number of Irish UK apologists during the Potato "famine" were land owners.

 

In Minneapolis the pendulum already swung back a year ago when the “Defund Police” proposal was soundly defeated and even though Mayor Frey is a bad mayor being the only top candidate to speak out against Defund the Police won re-election.

 

In 15 years I'm pretty sure crime will still rise due to larger gaps in wealth distribution in the country and more harsh law enforcement will be requested.

I think eventually we will be in a society where automated gun turrets are outside corporate headquarters and gated communities. That's probably eventually what we are heading towards.

 

There were but there were also many who were poorer. I’ve been to Northern Ireland and there are many poor Irish who consider themselves British. The history of Ireland is chock full of stories of Irish fighting each other. That’s why the Irish Flag is both Green and Orange.

 

I wouldn’t say that’s not possible but I’m not sure that future isn’t a certainty.

While there are a lot of things that make inequity high historically compared to times like the Gilded Age it isn’t that high. We ve currently seen signs like in lowering inflation with increases in actual age growth that are lifting up all classes in the US. Also policies but he current Administration are addressing inequalities through better infrastructure and access to healthcare.

As yogi Berra said it’s hard to make predictions, especially about the future but I dont think a class based dystopia is a given.