Compete, compete, do it for the boys Empty barrels make the most noise You're always on the move You've always got something to prove What the **** are you fighting for? Is it becuse you're five foot four? You better be happy with what you've got You'll never get any more You laugh at a man when he tries You're trying to make up for your size To you life is a rivalry Keep a step ahead of me Small man, big mouth
Ahh, but New York isn't asking them to lower the trans fat. They are asking for an outright ban. If you read up, you'll find that there are some transfats in nearly all of the fast food items. Maybe that will help you rationalize why the word "ban" is such a problem. Very similar to a zero-tolerance policy. A blanket ban is not the right way to go on any issue, period.
So you like the ban because it would selfishly benefit you. Now the truth comes out. There are tons of quick eateries that serve healthy food. But you'd like more.
Oh no, I'm supporting something that helps the health of every person! If you could actually give me a good reason why you want to consume trans fat versus another type of fat please tell me. If research showed a particular type of artificial sweetner was extremely unhealthy, and the goverment banned it, would you be up in arms over that as well?
Could have sworn they did that with saccharrin already, but it wasn't banned. Everything in moderation works best. And if the FDA wants to eventually remove it from our foods, which they could easily phase in, due to their findings, then that would be fine. But a city banning something is gestapo tactics at their finest.
Yeah, it will be eventually removed as companies lobby to make sure they can use up all their stocks and slowly replace they machines that hydrogenate the oil. I applaud New York for taking a stand and pushing up the date. I'd much rather have a goverment that is concerned for people's health than a corporation's right to poision us slowly.
And I'd much rather have a Gov't. stay out of affairs it was never designed to control. Again, that is why we have the FDA. And if you can't understand why things like this need to be phased out rather than banned immediately with a broad stroke, you simply don't understand our economy at all.
As long as the substance is legal, and the FDA hasn't determined it is 'poison' then any 'ban' is ridiculous. Yet another step down the road of health based facism. People who don't want to eat it don't have to eat it. People who do or don't care can eat it. Arguing that consumers can't affect corporate policy according to their preferences is outright silly. Seen those salads at McDonald's? Go to a McDonald's in London and you can get a tikka burger - you know why? Because of consumer preference. Although it is somewhat amusing to watch someone rallying around making their FRIED FAST FOOD healthier. This isn't SLIME IN THE ICE MACHINE, lol.
I understand why they should be phased out. Is the ban going into effect tomorrow? No, they have until July 1st, 2007 and that is only if the proposal gets passed in it's current format.
If people want to be dumbasses and plan an early death by filling up all the time on trans fats and fast food, let them do it. I know Fazoli's for one hardly uses any. That's why I love Fazoli's. Fattening as hell though, but what can you do...
Yeah I wouldn't mind that if I wasn't freaking paying for the extra health care costs of all the smokers and people who eat whatever without caring what goes into their body.
thus the price you pay for living in a capitalist society. if you don't want it, dont buy it. if people are smart enough to figure out what they want to eat, then they should be smart enough to figure out whether it's healthy or not. if the companies deem it necessary, they'll make the change. getting the government involved only complicates things tremendously, and it sets horrible precedent.
You think we truly live in a capitalist society? We have some traits of capitalism, but we are far from a pure capitialist nation.
Yeah! So we should all be on a strictly regimented diet to keep B's health costs down. I sure hope B isn't doing ANYTHING that might contribute to our health care costs because really my hope is that in the future we'll all be TOTALLY SAFE AUTOMATONS. Wouldn't that be great!?! As a matter of fact B earlier said he avoided fast food restaurants because of the trans fat. Since FRIED FAST FOOD still won't be good for you, B, you better not be sneaking in after the ban!
You don't seem to realize you can eat the exact same things. Only thing that will change is the oil they cook with. It's no change on the consumer side other than it's nowhere near as bad for you. Oh no! People are pushing for something that is good for others! What will we do?
I am anti-health driven facism. I agree with minimum government intrusion for public safety, but the use of a legal ingredient for cooking is does not fall under that scope, IMO. Too much salt is bad for you. Should the government regulate how much salt a chef uses in his food? After all, the public is really stupid and may not think to bring a salt-o-meter and check how much salt the chef is using! Peanut butter can cause cancer, as can grilling in your backyard! I guess we should ban those habits as well! Your argument was that you shouldn't have to pay for the health related costs of people's eating or their habits. So you certainly shouldn't be eating fried fast food since we may have to pay for your health related costs of eating fried fast foods. Right? Hey! Yoga is good for you! We should mandate that everyone does Yoga! After all, what are you going to complain about? It's good for you! Pushing for better habits is different from BANNING someone's choice.
