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[NY Daily News] Sixers Are Fielding Offers For Miller

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by smoothie, Nov 25, 2007.

  1. A_3PO

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    I'm not the biggest Andre Miller fan. He isn't a bad player but he's just another guy with a soft mentality that we don't need. Plus he is a complete non-factor from long range. If the Sixers give him away by accepting our scrubs in return then I would do a deal. Obviously that won't happen unless the Sixers just want to dump him quickly.
     
  2. Man-Dingo

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    Terry wasn;t really scraps, Terry was the man on a bad Atlanta squad. On the other hand, Miller is not even the 3rd best player on a young and terrible Philly squad. All i'm saying is that Miller is only a better version of Rafer, and is bad shooting 3's by the way. Mike James and Francis are better cheaper options than Miller. Plus people on here are suggesting trading 3 players for Miller, and he is not worth it at all IMHO
     
  3. Deckard

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    Why do we need to be fixated on that aspect of point guard play? Frankly, I'd be happy if Rafer never took another three the rest of the season. I'd be even happier if he didn't come of the bench, but I digress. Miller has consistently hit the mid-range jumper for a high percentage his entire career. I'd kill to have a point that could and would do that under our current coach. The spacing is there. Alston can't do it. James is a better 3 point shooter and finisher around the basket than he is at mid-range. We're getting solid looks at the basket at mid-range with the spacing from Adelman's system. Wouldn't it be great for an opposing team to have to worry about a consistent offensive threat from the point? Maybe, someday, Brooks will be the answer, and if we can get another guy that's cheaper who fits the bill, great, but the subject came up and I don't care about whether Miller can hit from Downtown.
     
  4. YallMean

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    Miller is big, strong, good distributor. Basically an much upgraded version of Rafer, with bad shooting too. I would pursue him, come up with a package that doesnt give up too much of our assets. If we can get him we get him, if not I am really OK with it. But with Morey and his magic hand, you never know. :D
     
  5. YallMean

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    He can post up and cuts pretty well, good floor awareness. But I think he doesnt fit here well. His strength is not much needed here. And his weakness will hurt us.
     
  6. baller4life315

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    I have a hard time believing we could come up with a trade package that Philly wouldn't fall out of their chair laughing at.

    Soooo Philly trades one of their best and most popular players in franchise history for Miller then they turn and trade him for Rafer, Luther Head and our other trash?!

    Lucky for them Philly fans are so understanding and accepting of moves like that. ;) :eek: :rolleyes:
     
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    P.S. Give me Cassell or give me death!!
     
  8. YallMean

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    It about the best they can get. If nobody offers them better, and they want to dump Dre, they will take it. Looking back Francis/Mobley/Cato for Tmac/Howard, was it one of those silly trades, and yet Olando took it.
     
  9. slcrocket

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    I would LOVE to see Miller as a Rocket. Like Clutch says though, I don't know that he really fits because frankly, I'm not sure what Adelman wants in his point guard. If it's what we've seen so far this year, he wants a guy who can at least knock down the open shot, and I don't know that it's necessarily Miller.

    That being said, just getting rid of Rafer and Snyder is exciting to me no matter who we could pick up, but I don't see it happening. Miller is a starting point with good size, and I'm sure someone can offer something better than what we feasibly can.
     
  10. A_3PO

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    Since the Cavs are said to be exploring sign-and-trade options for Varejao and they also have interest in Miller, that could be the match.
     
  11. baller4life315

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    John Weisbrod is out of the NBA now. Billy King may be a borderline idiot too but even he knows that the same fans that booed Santa Claus and what not aren't going to be accepting of a move like this. Trading AI ultimately nets them Rafer Alston and Luther Head?! RIGHT!

    It's not like Miller is a deadweight or anything either. No, he's probably not $9-10 million a year good but he's still a solid player and their second leading scorer.

    Just because a rumor that like this surfaces this isn't code for the fans of better contending teams to pretend like it's a firesale.
     
  12. dedong22

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    even worse 3pt shooter than rafer
     
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    ......but he's in a whole different league than Rafer at finishing.

    See, we don't necessarily have to have a 3 point assassin at the pg position. But what we can't continue to have is a poor 3 point shooter and poor 2 point shooter, and poor finisher, all wrapped up in one at the PG spot.
     
  14. waihh

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    Agree.

    Three years ago, if the Rockets offered Steve on the table, they would get Miller plus sb. plus sb.... Now he was considered by some fans here to be bundled for Miller. Steve is really underrated now. Way underrated.

    Steve is a great player. He still has a lot of game. I don't mind if the ball is put in his hand when TMac is off court. Let him dribble penetrate for 5-6 plays per game when the shots from TMac and others are not falling. Coming playoff time, steve will be a huge piece.

    Philli will take Steve upfront for Miller, if the rockets fill up by expiring contracts. So stop talking nonsense, please OP!!!
     
  15. cheshire

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    Miller is a career 45% shooter, I will take that over Alston's 38% FG % and 35% 3pt FG%. At least as a mid-range shooter, Miller can put more pressure on the opposing defense with the dribble penetration shot or pass.

    Leave the 3's to Battier, Luther, T-mac and James.

    Morey, get it done.
     
  16. KALIKULI

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    Adelman will really have some serious problem juggling all the players. Don't need no Miller time! :D
     
  17. rock8ts

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    3 guards are better than 1.
     
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    This is the only trade we need to win this year. Philly also gets a pick from us and some cash...and one from the Clippers. Philly gets two expirings, two picks, and cash. Perhaps they'd bite.

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    L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: -2.1 ppg, -0.8 rpg, and -0.6 apg.
    Incoming Players
    Andre Miller
    6-2 PG from Utah
    14.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 4.0 apg in 34.0 minutes
    Outgoing Players
    Aaron Williams
    6-9 PF / C from Xavier
    2.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.0 apg in 7.5 minutes
    Sam Cassell
    6-3 PG from Florida State
    14.0 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 4.6 apg in 25.8 minutes

    Houston Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: +0.9 ppg, -0.8 rpg, and -1.7 apg.
    Incoming Players
    Sam Cassell
    6-3 PG from Florida State
    14.0 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 4.6 apg in 25.8 minutes
    Outgoing Players
    Kirk Snyder
    6-6 SG from Nevada-Reno
    5.7 ppg, 0.7 rpg, 1.7 apg in 10.0 minutes
    Rafer Alston
    6-2 PG from Frenso State
    7.4 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 4.6 apg in 29.0 minutes

    Philadelphia Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: +1.2 ppg, +1.6 rpg, and +2.3 apg.
    Incoming Players
    Aaron Williams
    6-9 PF / C from Xavier
    2.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.0 apg in 7.5 minutes
    Kirk Snyder
    6-6 SG from Nevada-Reno
    5.7 ppg, 0.7 rpg, 1.7 apg in 10.0 minutes
    Rafer Alston
    6-2 PG from Frenso State
    7.4 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 4.6 apg in 29.0 minutes
     
  19. jopatmc

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    1. Rafer, Shane, Snyder, and a #1 for Miller and Iguodala.

    or

    2. Rafer, Shane, Snyder, Luther, and our #1 for Miller, Korver, and Philly's #1.

    or

    3. Rafer, Shane, Snyder, and Luther for Miller, Korver, Randolph, and Philly's #2.
     
  20. YallMean

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    He is not a neccessarily a good mid-range shooter. He finishes around the rim a lot.
     

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