[NY Daily News] Sixers Are Fielding Offers For Miller

I would only part with Alston, Head, Snyder at this point...

 

Miami has a better chance than Cleveland. They can also throw in Cook or Wright which probably might interest the Sixers.

 

I did this trade on realgm. It was the only one that would work.
Houston Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -2.8 ppg, -0.4 rpg, and -3.6 apg.
Incoming Players
Andre Miller
6-2 PG from Utah
14.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 4.0 apg in 34.0 minutes

Outgoing Players
Luther Head
6-3 PG / SG from Illinois
3.9 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.3 apg in 12.6 minutes
Kirk Snyder
6-6 SG from Nevada-Reno
5.7 ppg, 0.7 rpg, 1.7 apg in 10.0 minutes
Rafer Alston
6-2 PG from Frenso State
7.4 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 4.6 apg in 29.0 minutes

Philadelphia Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +2.8 ppg, +0.4 rpg, and +3.6 apg.
Incoming Players
Luther Head
6-3 PG / SG from Illinois
3.9 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.3 apg in 12.6 minutes
Kirk Snyder
6-6 SG from Nevada-Reno
5.7 ppg, 0.7 rpg, 1.7 apg in 10.0 minutes
Rafer Alston
6-2 PG from Frenso State
7.4 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 4.6 apg in 29.0 minutes

Outgoing Players
Andre Miller
6-2 PG from Utah
14.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 4.0 apg in 34.0 minutes

 

Trade Rafer, Snyder and our first round pick for Miller. We wouldn`t really loose anything (Snyder gets only limited minutes, Miller is a way better version of Rafer and our first round pick should be in the high 20s) and get a quality starting pg. That is really the only missing piece to our team. We have 2 superstar players, someone holding the team together on defense, some guys that should hit the open three, good rebounders and some scorers. I wouldn`t see anything missing.

This team:

Miller/Francis
T-Mac/James
Battier/Bonzi
Hayes/Scola
Yao/Mutombo

is very capable of winning it all if you ask me. Throw in Luther, Aaron and Landry and we are even good with a minor injury.

 

Thank you- we have a load of back court players like Steve, Brooks, and Rafer. I doubt that Phil want these- but you have to try

 

When I hear Andre Miller, I want to fall asleep. How does his stats for the 34 minutes he is playing make you think he will be better than Steve? How will he stack up against the rest of the elite guards in the western conference?

I think most of you are overrating him. He may not be bad like Wafer, but he is not the missing link in our championship team that we are building. Trade for him only if they will take Wafer and maybe Novak. Other than that, forget it! Find something better.

 

Who would be better that we could get? PG is probably our weakest position so far this season. Of course if Rafer or Steve can play constantly at a high level we will be alright, but that is a bit of a gamble. We are alright at PF with Scola slowly but surely finding his game and Chuck being Chuck with a little more offense this year (he developed some low post moves). But our PGs are often a mismatch on defense and either don`t get the offense going, missing shots or playing stupid.

What is André Miller? Think of Rafer Alston with more defense and a better shot, while being a lesser 3pt shooter (which also means he isn`t taking too many 3pointers). Sure a guy like that with a 3pt shot would be great, but I don`t see one of em coming to us.

 

So everytime a team wants to dump a player someone here going to start a thread wanting to trade?

 

Why would you trade for a PG that can't hit the "3" on a consistent basis? I'd give up Rafer and Kirk, otherwise I'd just rather see the team we do have come together and gel as a team. There's enough trouble with Adleman trying to get his rotations down and his system in place.

 

Steve is the answer guys. Just give it time. Besides, the last thing we want to do is add another PG, because they sure as hell aren't going to take one of ours back in a trade.

 

I think Andre Miller is a good ball hawk and offense initiator. He can drive and receive back cut passes from Yao or Tmac...but 3 point shooting is the bread and butter of this team...our PG should be able to play pick and roll with Yao either to give the ball back to Yao or take the mid range open jumper...with almost the same 3pt % with Rafer, I'll take Miller over him...

 

Every time that happens someon comes up with a Rafer scenario.

Clutch is right about Rafer's zero trade value...probably a Swift-like negative at this point. There's an sort of insider here, I forgot his name...he works at the TC but definitely not in the basketball decision making areas. Anyhow, he heard that the Rockets were in serious talks with the Heat for a Rafer Hasleem swap, which the Rockets may have turned down. Then later according to Feign, the Heat were the ones that laughed at the Rockets offer.

I don't really care who was right now. I'm just inclined to believe that Rafer is hard to move, and is just one of those players that will fade away when their bad contract is up. Then again, Joe Smith is still getting run, but he was talented...was.

Rafer can't shoot; is very good with the ball; good passer; average 1-on-1 D; above average team D; decent penetrator; terrible finisher; bad contract. All that combined is just really tough to move...definitely not something that will get you a great deal in return.

 

I don't think fit would be any problem. Miller excelled playing for Denver. They opnly gave him up to get Iverson and more scoring. We have T-Mac and Yao. Denver only had Carmelo.

 

I agree. I think Steve can be a great passing and scoring PG. No, he is not Steve Nash when it comes to passing but neither is Tony Parker or Jason Terry.

The Spurs have won championships with a scoring PG and the Mavs been one of the best in the league for the past few years with Terry at the point.

I would rather have Francis than Miller for this team.

 

yeee, he'd be a great fit, but who can we give for him?
of course not mj or stevie czuz we just got him.
if we give em scola or hayes than we'd have to go search for another pf
and i doubt they want rafer so it has to be someone else to go with him..ah this is hard..

 

Is there something wrong here or is just me.
Steve Francis alone is better than Andre Miller
Andre was an ok pg with Denver, then he went to philly and fell off the map, and thats who you want to give up 3 players to get, the same player who was packaged with another and 2 first round picks for Iverson.
Are we going to pick up scraps off philly's table now.
Miller is obviously a big upgrade over Rafer, although they play a similar game, but there is no way in God's freaking name he is better than Mike James and Steve Francis.
The same people clobbering for him, will be the same screaming that he gets traded after watching him playing couple of games for us