[NY Daily News] Raptors Privately Considering Trading Bosh

Bargnani does have a special skillset. He seems to have some Dirk attributes as well as some Okur attributes. Maybe even some Gasol attributes when you factor in the court vision and passing. The only problem is that he still plays a Euro style big man game in the NBA. He'll need to continue developing in a few areas but at 23-years-old, there is plenty of time. He seems like a player that could sort of come back from the dead and become very special. I suggested a trade for him earlier in the year in the Trade Rumors thread then somebody wisely pointed out his weaknesses. I guess you have to be a team willing to take some risk and have a long-term outlook on contending if you want to make him a building block.

By the way, that crossover he pulled on Scola in that clip above was sick. His stroke does remind me a lot of Dirk's. He definitely shoots well from mid-range and outside but he needs to develop his post game a little bit. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to see him getting to Gasol's level closer to the basket eventually if he puts the work in. The talent is definitely there. In an absolute best case scenario, I could see him become Dirk-like as a shooter, Okur-like defensively (just in the sense of being willing to play physical and body up people) and Gasol-like closer to the basket and in terms of passing the ball. As a shotblocker, he should be better than all of these guys. I'm not saying he has the potential to be better than Dirk, Gasol and Okur, just that he seems to possess some of their same skills to various degrees. Overall, he's a nice player and I wouldn't be disappointed if he landed in Houston at some point.

 

could we also land marion in a sign and trade at 7m per 4 yrs to complete the deal?

 

Wait, by "higher ceiling" people mean Bargnani has more room to grow, right? Surely you can't mean that he'll ever be better than Bosh.

 

Calderon is the one I would prefer and I bet the Rockets would as well.

It's too bad that Brian Colangelo most likely won't ever give him up. He discovered him and chunked the deuce to Ford last year, so if Calderon was traded, they'd have to have something very good in return.

Here's hoping that Colangelo is an Aaron Brooks fan.

 

The home he purchased in Toronto actually has 12 foot ceilings while Bosh's home (according to HAR.com) has 10 foot ceilings. That has to be what they mean from what I have seen of the two players.

 

I think it's one of those cliches that people throw around and not really know what they mean. I may have to add it to my sig.

 

Bosh would be nice but he's declined an extension on an approx. $15 million contract, so he's going to expect a big raise in 2010. So would it be worth losing Landry, McGrady, etc. for what will most likely be a one-year rental?

 

Problem for Toronto is that Bosh has all the leverage right now.

The raptors aren't likely to get much talent back unless Bosh agrees to it.

The question is, are the raptors willing to take back some talent + expirings for Bosh or risk losing him for nothing ala McGrady?

 

I agree with A_3PO as well. The guy is a classic case of the outstanding player who's lost his passion, that needs a change in scenery and a winning team with a chance to contend for a title. Houston could be a perfect fit. Not sure exactly how we'd get him, but would love to if it didn't cost the farm.

 

LOL. Agreed.

 

I'd probably give Yao for him straight up - he's a better fit for Houston with similar production. And he's younger and doesn't break his foot every year.

 

So Bosh, Dirk-lite, Jermaine O'Neal, switching over to Shawn Marion, along with Jose Calderon, should be winning some games over there in the East. Fired Sam Mitchell and Chris Bosh is the constant, so can see how Bosh is getting some criticism for being overrated and reaching his ceiling.

So take Luis Scola and Carl Landry who havent reached their ceiling, along with proven winner Shane Battier for Bosh, and your problems are solved.

 

I do have higher hopes for Bargnani than the average fan, I see something in him that most don't, I'm porbably wrong, but it's my opinion. It's like how we thought Spanoulis was going to have an impact on the Rockets, or like Roddrick Rhodes, players we valued more than their real worth.

LOL at the offer above. I might be very critical of Bosh, but I know what he's worth. How would you like Anthony Parker, Shawn Marion, and Joey Graham + 9th pick for Yao?

It's not rocket science we are discussing here .... When I said Bargs had a higher ceiling I mean't he had more room to grow than Bosh, who's abilities are somewhat limited. The things Bargs can do is not common in the NBA for 7 footers, I find it hard to put a limit on a guy like that (he can pull up for jumpers, he can dribble past his defender, he can make plays while attacking the rim, he can shoot the 3, he';s got a soft touch in the post, what else is there?).

Can he be better than Bosh? It's very difficult to say yes, since Bargs hasn't shown much until this last half of the season. But again as I wrote above, I have a bias opinion about this guy, I love the things he can do, maybe its the reason why I don't notice his limitations.... .............. He's not great at any one thing, its probably why others don't see much in his future. At one point everyone thought of Nowitzki the same way. But he worked his butt off to prove people wrong. So there is a chance.

 

http://sportsradiointerviews.com/2009/06/19/bryan-colangelo-re-bosh-its-not-time-to-panic/

Toronto Hoping To Sign-And-Trade Bosh

Toronto general manager Bryan Colangelo feels as though the team's best course of action is to sign-and-trade Chris Bosh.

Bosh will become an unrestricted free agent after the 2009-10 season, which puts the Raptors in a difficult spot.

"We'll have the discussion, we'll talk about the pros and the cons, he'll most likely not sign it, and then we'll get in to next season, we'll figure out where we are," Colangelo said in an interview with The Fan 590 in Toronto.

"In respect to the situation for him, there will be a handful of teams next year - I'm guessing between five and ten - which will have maximum allowable free agent money, which means Chris is subject to walk to one of those deals. But, I have to reiterate the point that keeps being overlooked - we're the only team that can offer him a full six years versus five years, 10.5% increases versus 8% increases ... Basically equates to a $30 million dollar difference. So, even if he wants to leave, he's still better served, and we're better served if he works a sign-and-trade with us where we can get some sort of an asset back from the team that he's going to. And, I think that's probably the thing that we'll both push for because he'll benefit from it and we'll benefit from it, and that's why it's probably not time to panic now and make a bad deal."







Too many signs that Bosh isn't going to be in Toronto for long......