NY Daily News: JVG, CD wanted Ward, but Les overruled

Coincidence? Anti-semitism and racism and sexism all sound ignorant and uncivilized to me, even out of the mouths of the educated.

 

What I was trying to say was basically that he might not have meant anything bad, but that he was just plain stupid. The result is the same, but maybe the intent by which you could judge the person's character to a certain extent is not. I'd probably rather be stupid than a racist or anti-semite.

 

im proud of les for standing up for what he believes in.....being jewish myself makes me happy to not see Ward in a rocket uni...

 

The more I hear about Les Alexander, the more I like him. Best owner in the league.

 

Good move, Les. We do not need anyone related to the Rockets organization with these kind of views. Taken out of context? He didn't mean it that way? What way did he mean it? I had forgotten about this when the possibility of Ward coming here was mentioned. Also being Jewish, I don't what that kind of attitude around the Rockets. It has nothing to do with him being persecuted because he is a devout Christian. It has to do with what is right and wrong.

We have an owner who does nothing but stand up for what he believs in. Remeber the Power Dancer shirts that had vegan slogans on them? What other owner does that in professional sports?

 

Religion just cocks everything up dosent it...

 

Didn't this ex-Knick waived Sun sign with SA? Enough already about Chuckie Ward.....

 

I don't understand why JVG would want him if Ward kept on using up most of the team's time in these pre and post game prayer meetings. These guys need to watch the game videos with JVG and get some learning pounded in their heads.

 

Let's face it, Ward is as anti-sematic as most Jews are anti-Christ. Are we prepared to say that Jews are anti-Christ because they do not believe that Jesus was the Son of God? If they are not anti-christ then Ward is not anti-sematic.

If this article is true and Les really didn't let the Rockets sign Ward because of his supposed anit-sematic remarks, then he is a pretty shallow fellow. I doubt the validity of the article.

 

So its all about the owner and not the fans now


On a serious not though, If he said that about Muslims in any way. I and many others would be opposed to him playing for their home town. Good desicion Les

 

If Les didn't want Ward around because of his remarks and character issues that's fine with me. But if later in the year we see the Rockets trying to trade for Rasheed Wallace then I doubt character was the real reason that we didn't get Ward.

 

anti-semitism is so last-century. Anti-Islam is the way to go, at least now you can get away with it by calling it patriotism.

back to D&D where you belong!!

 

How true. Good thing Hakeem came along back in the eighties when gays were getting the bulk of the prejudice.

 

maybe Ward had a couple of Jewish friends who converted and joined his congregation, and in testimony discussed how their parents were persecuting them.

and maybe, as a christian, he was reflecting this to the jewish author of this article...

dunno, i attended quite a bit of chinese christian bible study / fellowships in my time, and i hear about quite a number of buddhist parents totally get on their children's asses for becoming christian. and guess what, i hear pretty much the same complaints: "why are chinese/buddhist parents so stubborn?" "why won't they accept their children/jesus?" "why won't they stop their idol worship? etc. etc."

but i would hesitate on calling this racist though... it's just a part of everyday christian life...

as for quoting the bible to support his question, come on! it's a BIBLE STUDY group for goodness sake. what else was he going to quote? christianity has been fundamentally an anti-semitic religion for most of its history (or shall we say anti-every other religion). that's what most religion do, they EXCLUDE. they make it us versus the unbelievers (everyone else). whether your choice is judaism or christianity or islam it makes no difference, everyone else is WRONG by default. it took the christian world 1781 years and the edict of tolerance to accept judaism's right to exist (and even so only as a subjugated underclass), and only in the late 20th century was it no longer ok to persecute jews simply because they were jewish. look to current events. mel gibson's "passion" for example. many jews behaved badly in the bible, and this minority has given the entire people a bad name ever since in the christian world. if the two religions weren't fundamentally at odds, how can it be antisemitism simply to cite and illustrate something from the bible? as in the case here, and in the case of gibson's movie. what the author SHOULD HAVE DONE was to point out to ward and houston there and then that the actions of particular jews as vilified in the bible should not be extended to judgments made about jewish people today, who should be judged on their own actions. end of discussion. but he instead made it an issue and went out and screamed his head off about antisemitism and fundamentalist christians.

in everyday life as jews and christians (or whatever religion), i think it is simply important not to let one's personal religious beliefs infringe on the rights of others (persecution) and not to let religious views influence decisions which can impact other people's lives (discrimination). and to that effect, i don't see ward as being guilty. he simply posed a question in a christian bible study group about the persecution his brothers were facing and about the role of jews in the bible. he made a common error in extending responsibility for the poor actions of a few to a whole religion. an error of judgment, true. but i really doubt he hates jews deep down inside (he just wants more of them to become christians i guess). he wasn't making any decisions, he wasn't violating anyone based on his opinions. i think that separates him from les alexander, who HAS crossed the line. if what the NYDaily article says is true, his decision WAS based on religious beliefs.

 

Lil has many good points in his take and is right on point about Ward.

If Mitch Lawrence of the NY Daily News has reported accurately why Rockets did not get Ward [!*stretch*!] then I concure with Lil's final conclusion...

Regardless, Ward would have been a nice addition, but his impact would be marginally positive not season changing.

 

That's one of the dumbest things I have ever heard!

 

It's freakin' religion.
That has no place in pro sports.....leave all that faith and belief nonsense at church.
Sorry, but the Rockets are in need of a solid backup PG.
He's not great, but he sure as hell better than anything we've got.

 

You topped it.

 

That is an ignorant thing to say.

 

Come on already. Why do you think that he was serious?