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NY b*stard journalist(s)

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by fya, Jul 29, 2005.

  1. mateo

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    Great analogy.

    I am glad we didnt get Beltran. I dont think he's worth $100 million a year.. I think Drayton can spend that money elsewhere. And despite the occasional CF gaffe, I really dig Willie out there.

    Oh, but please boo him. The local NY news last night mentioned that it hurts his feelings. I hate the Mets and this is turning out to be a great weekend.
     
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  2. VesceySux

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    I know for a fact that Beltran's personal handler thought Carlos was going to Houston. Beltran then apparently changed his mind at the last second. Why? More money from the Mets? Living in New York? I have no idea. I'd love to know. My source kept me out of the loop. :(

    My vendetta against Beltran comes from the fact that he made me look bad to the BBS. I reported that he was leaning towards Houston, and in the end, I was wrong. For that, Carlos must die. :)

    However, I don't think he misled Houston. If his personal handler thought he was going to Houston, obviously based on multiple conversations with the guy, then we were definitely in the running until the bitter end. Yes, we got screwed, but what can you do? It was down to 2 teams, and we came in second place. All the eggs in one little basket...
     
  3. Stack24

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    It's only going to get better as we win the next 2 and send his butt packing back to NY.
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Yeah, see we got lucky,we were the rebound guy off her bad relationship with Kansas City. You know that guy's worth nothing.
     
  5. slickvik69

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    Maybe he just enjoys the New York lifestyle, who knows.

    If you're going to be angry, be angry at Scott Boras. I think he's the bad guy in this situation, he's good at what he does but it's very agonizing to see him drive a player's salary above and beyond what he is truly worth.
     
  6. DVauthrin

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    Excuse me, but Beltran hired Boras. And throughout the offseason, Astros players begged him to switch agents, and he didn't. So you can't excuse Beltran there.

    How do we know he lied? Well for starters, Beltran stayed numerous times that he wanted to not be in the spotlight and didn't want to play in New York(I can find articles backing this up if you would like). But wait, we know now that he wanted to be a Yankee(Boras offered them 6 for 96: ie a discount, the day of the deadline) but wanted to be in New York so badly(or Boras did) that he signed with the Mets(his 3rd choice). Secondly, Beltran stated at his Mets press conference that he was impressed with the interest Minaya showed in him(ie visiting him in Puerto Rico). Guess what, the Astros offered to come visit him too but were told it was unnecessary by Boras.

    Now we get to the deceitful Scott Boras(hired by Beltran remember). In the last few days of negotiations guess what happened: Boras leaked every Astros updated offer to the Mets. There is proof of this in the New York papers within days of the deadline. Furthermore, keep in mind we never could pinpoint what the Mets offer was, but every Astros offer was out there for all to see. It's pretty obvious now that Boras was the leak. Drayton and Tim said many times that they were not divulging the numbers at the wishes of Beltran. Then we get to deadline day, and Boras makes a ton of unscheduled requests/demands in the negotiations, hours before the deadline. Like that just happened by accident. Also, reports came out that Boras was negotiating with the Mets in those same hours. Lastly, dragging this out until january 9th cost the Astros any chance at obtaining a quality middle of the order bat to replace his production. The only bat that wasn't a Boras client and a FA after that point was Burnitz. And the Astros were in a very vunerable trade position when it came to Soriano.

    So in conclusion, Beltran/Boras's company line is that this all hinged on a no-trade clause. However, I ask you this: Do you really think Drayton McClane(he who has rewarded fan favorites Biggio and Bagwell with very rich contracts) would let a fan favorite and postseason hero leave over something as small as a no trade clause? Honestly? If you really believe Drayton McClane would let a Carlos Beltran walk over a no trade clause, I have some land I would like to sell you. Is it possible? Yes. But it's incredibly unlikely. Drayton knew how much the city loved Beltran(see the keepbeltran.com website/petition) and he has always rewarded his star players and fan favorites before.

    If you would like to read more, there are many beltran threads you can find through searching this BBS.
     
  7. Toast

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    I can't stand that Beltran S-O-B. And I'm glad the journalists in NY noticed.

    Now, if you don't mind, I'm gonna go and shoot me another one of them there squirrells runnin' out back and mama's gonna cook it up nice. We're havin' company over at the double wide so's she says I'm gonna hafta take a bath too. I don't ordinarily take 2 baths a month like this, but I reckon she's right.
     
  8. l3igballer23

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  9. intermill

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    You left out the part where the one night stand tells you what a good time she had the next morning. Then the next night you are at the bar talking to another woman when you get a text saying how she hopes to see you again and meet you that night. So you turn down the who you are talking to because the one night stand has so much promise happen again. Then she decides to bang someone else and you get nothing.
     
  10. RocketMan Tex

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    Very well said!
     
  11. msn

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    ...and that is all that needs to be said.

    It is absolutely treasonous to defend a freaking low-life freaking met.

    Show your colors! To hell with the mets, braves and dodgers!! Boo them all!!! GO ASTROS!!!!
     
  12. fya

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    Don't forget the cubs! Boo those bastards too!
     
  13. Blatz

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    Hitless Carlos Belted with boos

    BY ROGER RUBIN DAILY
    NEWS SPORTS WRITER


    On a night when the Mets electrified Shea with nine runs and 18 hits in a spectacular come-from-behind victory, one man stood out for all the wrong reasons. Carlos Beltran went 0-for-6 against the Brewers and was the only starting position player to go without a hit.
    He has kept his composure through his offensive struggles, but last night the heralded offseason acquisition was showing frustration. He was irked that amid all the late-inning cheers for the comeback, Mets fans took breaks to jeer him after he made outs.

    "What do you want me to do?" said Beltran, about the only somber person in a celebratory home clubhouse. "If they want to continue to boo, they can do it.

    "I'll be here for seven years."


    Beltran had to deal with an injured quad earlier in the season that may have contributed to his struggles then. He has no excuse for the last month, unable to get on any kind of roll.

    He was supposed to be the offensive weapon that would put the Mets over the top and into the playoffs, the reason he got a 7-year, $119 million contract. Instead, his struggles had general manager Omar Minaya desperately trying to land a run producer - Manny Ramirez or Alfonso Soriano - before the trade deadline.

    Beltran had fielder's choices on two of his first three at-bats. He scored a run after one, drove home one with the other. His last three at-bats ended up producing five outs.

    After grounding out in the sixth, his lineout to right field in the eighth started a double play when Miguel Cairo, on first, misjudged the ball thinking it would drop for a hit. In the 10th inning, after Cairo's leadoff walk, he hit into a 3-6-3 double play.

    "I will continue to go out and play the game," he said. "Sometimes you know things are going to go that way, sometimes they don't. Today wasn't my day."

    He seemed on the brink of breaking out when the Mets last played, Sunday in Houston. Beltran was 3-for-4 and had an RBI and a stolen base. He, too, thought it might be the start of something. But yesterday he couldn't shake the inconsistency that has plagued him.

    "Every time game starts I am thinking (to) go out and do the best I can and get on base for the team," he said. "If I get on base, I'm going to give the team an opportunity to score runs.

    " It's just like one day is good and the (next) is not good."
     
  14. Nick

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    Just for kicks, I watched some of last year's game 5 against Atlanta, where Carlos went 4-5 with 2 HR's and 5 RBIs... and I was just thinking to myself how calm and composed he looked in what would ultimately be one of the momentous nights in franchise history.

    I was sure that this guy was impenetrable... so in tune with his mindset and mentally tough that he was worth the world.

    I guess playing in NY every single freakin day (and having to deal with some of the idiot fans, and idiot media almost every single freakin day) will make anybody crack. I know Carlos has made his own bed by choosing to sign that contract with that team... but I know him going over there was also the product of the devil and Omar Minaya's puerto rican roots.

    Don't worry Carlos... if you never recapture the "magic" you had here throughout the next SEVEN years that you're over there... its very likely that Omar would have lost his job, the fans will stop expecting you to do great things, and you'll just end up being another Bobby Bonillia (a player who had greatness written all over him... until he jumped to the Mets for more exposure and the biggest payday possible).
     
  15. MadMax

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    wow..that's a really good post. bobby bonillia is an excellent parallel.
     
  16. Svpernaut

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    Good ol' Nick and Max, always having the Stros back.
     
  17. MadMax

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    i'm a fan.

    but this is dead on. that .313 on base percentage is sparkling.
     
  18. Nick

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    I'm actually not defending the Astros not being able to sign him. We're fortunate that we don't have his contract right now with the performance he's putting up... but then again, I have a feeling that his #'s would be slightly better playing in Houston (the ballpark, the comfort factor, the lack of media hounding, the expectations would be decreased... etc.).

    I was just reminicscing as to how less than one year ago, this guy was just a innocent/hard working/dedicated ballplayer playing his heart out for a team that had never tasted post-season success. Now, after being built up to stardom by his post-season magic and his contract, he's being slowly torn down by the media, fans, and by his own undoing.

    Its tragic... no matter who you root for.
     
  19. msn

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    Yeah, but it "ain't no skin off my back".

    Enjoy NY, Carlos. We got a pennant race over here.

    Go Astros!!
     
  20. T_in_Charlotte

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    And, BTW Carlos, how does it feel to look up at us in the standings?
     

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