It was a bad divorce. That's my point. There's a reason to be upset, you just lost the only person you ever new to some upstart young punk. Beltran, really he wasn't long enough here for me to hate him.
I'm sorry, but booing a player who negotiated a better deal for himself is pathetic. Why are we so overly obsessed with this guy when we're obviously better off having not signed him? If you want to use the analogy of an unfaithful ex-wife, then I ask you, if you went on after that marriage to marry a supermodel who you were dearly in love with, would you go back and write dirty emails every day attacking your ex-wife or would you just forget about her and enjoy your new wife? It's pathetic and classless to see a stadium full of grown adults so overly obsessed with one human being. Even cursing at that person just because they didn't get what they wanted. Real mature. What exactly did he do wrong here? So the guy took the highest offer. So shoot him. You can say they were dirty in their negotiations, but that's real life folks. If the Astros didn't want to get caught with their pants pulled down, they should have set a deadline or explored other options. Noone was holding a gun to their heads to play along in Boras' games. You say that Beltran never even gave the Astros a chance and was intent on New York all the way - well then, if it's so obvious after the fact, why didn't anyone have that foresight at the time? Noone held a gun to their head. So the guy left the team, big deal, move on and act like you've been there. We're better off without his contract. As for me, I was not at the game, but had I been, no doubt I would have given him a huge standing ovation. Carlos Beltran gave me the greatest ride of sports memories I've ever had. More than either Rockets' championship. For once, he made this city believe that maybe it's baseball team was not cursed. Setting the record for postseason HR's, turning singles into doubles on the basepaths, making the two greatest catches in Astros postseason history. Every time he stepped to the plate, you knew something was going to happen. That was one magical ride that made this Astros fan believe that maybe that year, maybe they could win it all. For that, I could never boo Carlos Beltran.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Have you been around sports for any significant amount of time. Everyone boos at some point. It's a part of professional sports. I can't believe people are getting so worked up about the booing of a professional athlete. Especially one whose, IMO, unethical negotiations could have helped ruin our season.
But not to a guy who helped you get to a level that he did. Hey, I can understand booing Scottie Pippen. He trashed Charles Barkley and screwed us by bringing down his trade value. But Beltran? Why?
The other thing is this, I always pictured Houston as a town above booing like that other than an idiot like Scottie Pippen. I don't understand anyone's logic in it making us a better baseball town. How does booing this guy make you a better baseball town? That makes no sense.
OVERRATED. *CLAP, CLAP, CLAP CLAP CLAP* That is what I want to hear tonight from the fans... a little New York hospitality for him down in the south.
You have your right to cheer just like we have our right to boo. You don't get us booing, and we don't get your cheering. It seems like by the reaction at Thursday's game more people don't get your opinion.
It shows passion. All fans boo at some point. Show me a town that doesn't. It's not like batteries were thrown at him or anything like that. If that happens, I'll be the first to criticize just like I'm happy to call those fans who poured beers on Mets fans idiots. However, for a town that's been roundly criticized for not showing any, good or bad, I'm happy about the booing. Just like I was when we booed Pippen.
You can't believe people would get so worked up to post about the booing an athlete, but you say its completely expected that people would get worked up enough to actually boo said athlete for 3 hours? What do we actually know about the negotiations to know they were unethical?
Like I addressed in my post, who's fault is that that the negotiations could have ruined our season? Major did a much better job explaining this.
Lets see from a Houston sports fan view: 1. Beltran signed elsewhere for more money, greedy. Strike one! 2. Beltran and agent Boras strung the Astros along, dishonest. Strike two! 3. Beltran went to New York, yankee lover. Strike three! 4. Beltran is playing for the Mets, ugh. Strike four! That's four strikes and it only takes three to be out. Boo him like hell!
The only town above that would be St. Louis. I never did like their goody two shoes image. But trust me. If this type of thing happened to the Yankees or the Sox their fans would react the exact same, and they are great baseball towns.
Rocketman95: I've personally never been one to boo much. Maybe I'm not that passionate I guess. I've always just felt it seemed like a bunch of grown adults acting like children, overly obsessed with some millionaire who probably couldn't care less (despite that it distracted him). But I'm cool with it at times. I won't get worked up over it or anything. When Jalen Rose came back after what he did to Mario, boo the hell out of that b*stard for that cheap shot. Same with Scottie. Or JD Drew in Philadelphia. But Beltran was a free agent. We knew he wasn't coming back. That we decided to play along in Boras' game was our fault. Besides, last postseason - man....that was something to behold.
Because booing happens everyday for a lot less. To act surprised and to call people immature for doing it is ridiculous. I wish I could find the editorial in the Chronicle a few days after he signed. It had some good arguments by a Baker Botts )) attorney for the Attorney General filing a DTPA claim against Boras for essentially lying about offers that never happened. I know the Wetspot has a copy of it...I'll investigate.
Just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. There is a difference. We (the fans) treated him better last year than the ny fans are treating him this year, even when he was slumping towards the end of the regular season. We let him in. You can come back with the "it's a business" argument and I'll say he can do his business (grabbing all the cash humanly possible) and we'll do ours (boo'ing his ass when he comes back to town). Man, some of you are acting like we murdered his family or something. The guy got over $71,000 (1 game salary) last night. All for going 0-4 and getting boo'ed for a couple of hours. HE'LL GET OVER IT.
People do immature things all the time and get called out on it all the time ... and no one is surprised by the booing. Neat! I hadn't heard that.. did anything ever come of it?
I'd say the same about the booing. I'd say you're acting like he murdered your family or something too.
1) Beltran is a Met - that is reason enough to boo. 2) Beltran consistently lied to the Astros during the offseason. Why is so hard to understand anger at a player who told lie after lie after lie to the Astros organization. This is why I am pissed at him. He lied to us - he could've gone the route of Randy Johnson - who flat out told both the Mariners and the Astros that he was going to sign with Arizona - because that's where he wanted to end his career. Yes, we fell for it - but that in no way excuses the lies of Beltran over the offseason.
